[Uh-Oh]Israel and Gaza on the brink of all out WAR

Hamas, Yaser Arafat, PLO, Hezbollah. The leadership doesn't matter. Israel will never want any Palestinian leadership that has balls and will step up to the atrocities going on.

They will all be labeled terrorists by the Media, and the Genocide of the Palestinians will continue while the Israelis paint themselves as the victims.

Palestine Victims - 6 kids, 2 babies, and a pregnant woman in the past week.

Real big terrorists those were..

Oh but wait, now their family shouldn't retaliate and fight back after their loved ones have just been murdered.

 

I don't want to defend Hamas as I agree they are a terrorist organization and are ill serving the Palestinians but you have to consider that the Gaza Strip is one of the densest places in the world and there really is no such thing as a precision bomb when dropped into a dense urban environment. On the flip side too Israeli soldiers frequently mingle in the civilian population while in uniform so it's not like Israelis go to every length to separate their military from their civilian.

Anyway this isn't to say Hamas is good and Israel is bad or the converse. In my opinion neither side has the moral high ground.

 

that blood is on Hamas's hands. Not Israel.

 

You are brainwashed. Living in Israel definitely has radicalized you. Your views are much more extreme than they were two years ago.

 

You support Hamas. Who is extreme?

 

See the above post for a decent response.

Also, from the site you quote.

Shows you the scum on the other side.

 

I support Hamas???? I simply say Israel is an aggressor and a terrorist state.

 

You can see the pictures of the rocket launch site and the playground and mosque. Hamas does set up shop next to these places. who is brainwashed?

 

calm down bro!!!, i'm not on anyone's side. i'm talking about about using common sense, being a realist, being open minded, pragmatic, etc...

it's like watching a game/match or whatever and you can see the momentum has turned and see the winner before the match is over. I don't see any way Palestine reclaims land and becomes sovereign in my lifetime or the next. I can see Palestine (territory/entity) as it stands today become history.

I was saying I wish the Palestine people could see that. It's very difficult because faith, hope, principles, pride, myopia, irrationality, etc... get in the way, but surely the people of Palestine have to realize they will not win. Look at the conquest of the Americas, only history, stories, and a few traditions survive. Fighting back is exactly what the Israelis want you to do. Hamas is sadly and tragically undermining you. Now Israel can play the victim and gives them all the patriotic rage they need to push their agenda even further.

Cut your losses, get what you can now, become sovereign (albeit small), and move on before it's too late.

That's all I'm saying here.

 

Should be pretty easy for Israel to get rid of Hamas, and stop killing Innocent Palestinians.

 

you're asking israelis to rid hamas, wasn't it palestinians who voted them in???

 

It's the Israelis that have a problem with them. If they ****ing want to get rid of them, then by all means do it. Stop killing already starved, impoverished innocent civilians and children.

 

you see, this is where you and i differ.

Palestinians SHOULD have a problem with them too, Hamas is hijacking any chance they had. Hamas will inject false hope and create a zeal for a loosing cause. Palestinians need real leadership not barbaric, guerrilla, and warlord style leaders.

 

Any leadership they choose will be forced to take up arms and defend their people against the terrorism of Israel. If they didnt they would be voted out of office. The Palestinian people and the people of Gaza that have been victimized and have lost family, will elect a leadership that will fight back against oppression.

 

so you don't have a problem with them? just them silly israelis. sounds like u support Hamas.

 

oxymoron.