Read my post again. I said take your Knicks discussion elsewhere. Who said you can't discuss Lin? And go rinse your mouth with soap.
Lin is fine (particularly at the defensive end), As a rebuilding and youngest team without training camp for Harden, Rockets is 4-4. Not bad. This team is not going to be bad over a decade. Knicks fans should target on their highest paid superstar who shoot 3/12, not the ex-knicks.
so, what's it going to be? remove lin from the team or get new a coach? wouldn't it make sense to get a coach that brings the run and gun style that he ran in NY? it obviously made everyone on the team better (NY), so did Morey think about this? since McHale ain't coming back soon and can't stand watching Sampson's interviews, it's like McHale Jr.
I just wish Tyson were on this team. He is such a good screener. Actually, if we had one good screener on this team, the offense would look so much better.
No, the offense they were running made all the scrubs on the court play well, including Lin. He can do nothing in a traditional offense. He's proving it. By the way, Felton is a better player than him.
No Morey said today in response to mike brown getting fired so early in the season that he doesn't believe in making similar changes in mid season. Jeremy is going to have to adapt this season. Really though, although he won't put up Linsanity numbers in the current system, if he can make his shots consistently, I think he will look so much better. It's like when he takes his shots he acts he knows they won't go in. Even worse, he blatantly passes up makable shots. His confidence is shot with his offensive game he will just have to fight hard to get it back. At this point I don't even think his teammates are trusting him.
Lin isn't a Knick. Discussions about the current Knicks team should go to the NBA Dish forum, which has threads for it.
Actually, from the articles I read the sequence was something along these lines... 1) Knicks decline to offer Lin a contract. Under the CBA they could have offered him up to a 4 year/$25M contract. Instead, they give him a QO (Qualifying Offer) - 1 year, 900k (league minimum) and tell him to "test the market". 2) Talks with Dragic break down (July 3). Dragic is scheduled to meet with the Suns. 3) Reports surface that the Rockets will meet with Lin (July 3). The Rockets meet with Lin in Houston to discuss a possible offer and terms (July 4). They reach a verbal agreement on basic terms. They are NOT allowed to give Lin a printed contract prior to July 13. 4) The Media reports that Houston is going to extend a 4 year/$28M ($5/$5/$9/$9) offer to Lin, with a 4th year Team option. (Lin states in later interviews that his side did NOT communicate with either the Media OR the Knicks about the terms of the offer and that the leak did NOT come from his camp) 5) The Media reports that sources within the Knicks say that they will match up to "One billion dollars". In an interview, Woodson says that "Lin will most certainly be our starting point guard next year". This was covered extensively in the media. 6) With no other solid starting PG's in the market, the Rockets redraft to a 3 year/$25M contract, backloaded as a poison pill contract of $5/$5/$15M to increase the chances of acquiring Lin so that they can make sure they have a starting point guard. This is specifically due to the limitations of the CBA. (Confirmed by Morey in articles and interviews) 7) Lin calls the Knicks as soon as he recieves the revised offer to inform them of the changes to the contract. In later interviews he says specifically that he did NOT request more money and that the contract was given to him in its revised form immediately after Morey contacted him to advise him of the changes in the terms. 8) Lin signs the contract. Under the CBA, if Lin does NOT sign the contract, the only contract he would have with the Knicks is the QO (1 year, $900k). The Knicks would NOT have been allowed to offer a revised contract. 9) The Knicks refuse to take reception of the Signed Contract, playing tag for a full day. In that time they work a trade for Raymond Felton. 10) The deadline expires, and Lin becomes a Rocket. A couple of salient points here. Lin is highly unlikely to have asked the Rockets for more money. Not only is it poor form to ask for different terms once a verbal had been reached (risking them simply retracting the offer due to poisoning the relationship), the Rockets would have had nothing to gain by accepting any sort of proposal from Lin to alter the contract terms. If the Rockets believed they could have acquired Lin for 5/5/9/9TO, then why would they willingly decide to create a contract with a much higher average yearly salary? The Rockets were the ONLY team that Lin had sat down with to negotiate a contract. Despite talking with multiple teams, he had NO other contract offers IN HAND. If he did NOT sign the 5/5/9/9TO, then he would have to go shopping again and talking to other teams. And if he actually wanted 5/5/15, then he could easily have requested it when they were sitting down over dinner. While there was alot of complaining about the luxury tax implications of Lin's contract, the Knicks are ALREADY over the Salary Cap AND Luxury Tax BEFORE deciding whether to sign Lin or not. Even with the original $5/$5/$9/$9TO deal, they would have been facing in excess of $25M in the 3rd year between the $9M in salary combined with repeater tax penalties that would have exceeded $15M. In the 4th year, virtually every other contract on the Knicks salary will have expired, so there would have been ZERO luxury tax implication in the 4th year. The financial deal breaker was NOT whether Lin was worth $15M or not. They already had stated they were willing to match the $28M contract, or paying $25M+ for Lin's 3rd year in combined salaries and Taxes. The financial deal breaker was the ADDITIONAL $6M, which would have triggered as much as an additional $12M in salary plus luxury taxes. Had Houston NOT raised the original contract offer, the actual bill to the Knicks for retaining Lin for the first 3 years assuming they did NOT exercise the Team Option would have been $5M/$5M/$9M in salary, AND $5M/$5M/$16M+ in Luxury Taxes, for a combined hit of $10M/$10M/$25, or $45M ($15M/year to their pocket books). Remember, this is what they were ALREADY willing to pay for Lin. You might think Lin has some marketing value, but NOBODY puts out $45M in salary and Luxury Tax penalties over a 3 year commitment unless they are HIGHLY confident that Lin will develop into a good to VERY good player. Another side note -- in every interview where he has been asked about Lin's contract, Morey has stated that not only is Lin worth his contract salary, he believes he UNDERPAID for Lin due to the quirks in how the CBA is constructed. He believes not only that Lin would have garnished a significantly Larger contract if he was a free agent, but that Lin's upside is considerable. While he doesn't see him putting up 23ppg and 7apg as he was during the 7 day Linsanity run, he is confident that Lin is STILL underrated and will develop into one of the better PG's in the league. Is Morey right? Did the Dolan's dodge a bullet? Nobody knows. All we know is that he's a Rocket.
I'm not lowering myself to your level. Just feel bad for your parents. Oh, by the way, I'm not going anywhere. Go join Gil on my ignore list.
Well, it absolutely does make sense. I am really amazed by Morey's bravado in player acquisitions, and underhwelmed by the same lack of daring in making coaching personnel decisions. Pull the trigger, morey, you know you want to.
Turning JLin into a spot up shooter is like forcing Charles Barkley to put on lipstick and a wig. The results can't be pretty. When you force players into roles that are against their nature, the end result is always disastrous. Which is exactly what sampson is doing. Turn asik into the first option to pass or shoot in a half court set. Not a good idea. Force Lin into a novak role. Not a good idea. Force harden to carry the burden, no help, making him look like an idiot playing 1 on 5. Not a good idea. The rockets have 3 wins against the pistons and NOH. This is not a reason to be optimistic.
I'm out here in Scottsdale for a few days and I can't you how muchthey love Dragic, stats like PPG-16.1 RPG-2.80 APG-7.2...man it would have been nice to see a Harden - Dragic backcourt. I just hope one of our backups can be productive
He's not very good. He was basically a product of the system in NY. Look at Felton 2 years ago where he was putting up all star type numbers at the PG position in NY. He is also doing very well this year. Lin was a flash in the pan sadly.
You know what. If the Rockets had kept Dragic & gotten Harden he would actually be a better fit with James. Dragic would be the SG because he really isn't a PG & James would man the point.
so f-ing true! we went from JVG to RA and now McHale and Sampson? they should have kept RA....at least he has a winning record and the resume to back it up. he would have been better in guiding this team.
Exactly. This is like fitting a square peg into a round hole. What did Morey think was going to happen? Especially once Harden was picked up. Putting the ball in Hardens hand may be the easiest form of offense right now, but its ugly. Real ugly offense. I stated after the second game, this was going to get ugly fast, it has. Thank god we played the Pistons twice otherwise the Rockets could very well be 2-6 with 130 million in contracts to three players. Unless your name is Jordan, or Lebron, or Kobe, the ball and the offense should start with the PG. It amazes me that coaches get players on their team, and refuse to work said players skillset into the offense, instead it about making the player fit. It almost NEVER works out in those situations.
the problem is who is out there now? all the good coaches are taken, unless the lakers let Mike D'A go after this season....
Why didn't Iman Shumpert, Mike Bibby, or Toney Douglas put up similar numbers under Mike D'Antoni then? Jesus Christ, we're 8 games in and all the little b****es here are getting all dramatic.
