[Uh-Oh]Israel and Gaza on the brink of all out WAR

This is without a doubt. Bottom line.

 

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This statement is SOOOOO true!!!!!

"You must Spread some Reputation Around" when I tried to rep you.

 

What does the Afghanistan war have to do with Israel?

 

The worse things get in Gaza, the worse things will be for the West Bank (which has a legitimate government and not thugs).

 

This war with twitter is pretty crazy.



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And why would they want to get rid of Hamas? Hamas is extremely popular with the Palestinians and they're also the only ones willing to defend the people.

 

Israel didn't even exist in 1917. It's like telling someone to give up half their house for no reason.

 

This is the truth.

 

Jordan did not exist in 1917 either. Not to mention their was no and never has been a country called Palestine.

 

Willing to defend them while firing rockets 20m away from a playground a mosque? Put down the damn rockets and let cooler heads prevail. If they were interested in protecting the people, they'd negotiate a truce. Oh wait, they already said there would be no truce... your logic is flawed.

We all know what is going to happen. The Arab bloc is going to scream their heads off at the UN to pass 800 one-sided resolutions trying to force Israel into a ceasefire before any real progress can be done to neutralize the rocket firing capabilities.

The recent increase of rocket fire only empowers the war hawks in the Israeli government. It's like we are playing a broken record.

We all better hope there's a truce before ground troops go in. It's going to get 10000x uglier once that happens. Troops going into booby trapped areas with children throwing rocks and militants hiding behind them. Nobody wins here as we create more generations filled with hate.

 

This. This. This. This. This. As long as there are warhawks on both sides, there will never be a truce.

 

no. This attempts to distribute the blame between Israel and Palestine equally. The blame is not equal. Israel must fight, they will be blown to pieces otherwise.

 

There is no point in placing blame or pointing fingers. Both sides are at fault regardless if it's 50/50 or 99/1. The purpose of government is to provide security to it's citizens, both physical and financial. Neither Israel or the Palestinian territories can do this.

This world will be a better place when:

1. Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, etc are disarmed and dismantled.
2. The Israeli government isn't controlled by ultra-orthodox whose only aim is to bring Israel closer to it's biblical borders.

We need to do better and we aren't even close. I just hope that if there is a war, the militant wing of Hamas and their ability to fire rockets are crushed.

 

You don't think the same could be set of the Palestinans? They have about as much reason to trust the Israelis as the Israelis do to trust them.

 

A good way to reach peace is to marginalize the party responsible for the bloodshed. Pointing fingers does help. If Palestinians treated Hamas members the same way say Americans treat Klan members then Hamas would have no members and no power in Palestine.

no. of course not.

Wrong. the video above makes the case. One side does a precision attack only taking out the target (purposely avoiding civilian casualties). The other side attacks from hospitals and schools for the purpose of causing civilian casualties.

 

The problem is that there is no way to wipe out militancy among Palestinans. As long as the Palestinans lack a viable economy and recognized state, as long as Israelis keep building settlements, there will be rockets coming from Gaza. As long as rockets keep coming from Gaza, the Israelis will continue to (rightfully) respond and the Palestinan people will suffer.

Unfortunately, given emigration patterns , parlimentary politics and the way the Israeli population is shaping up, I think we'll only see more catering to the Ultra-Orthodox by the Israeli government, which will mean more settlements in the West Bank and Jerusalem.

I really don't see a two-state solution as viable anymore. Although given the atmosphere between the two there's little hope for a one state solution (that doesn't involve complete annihilation).

 

They treat non jews in their own state kind of bad. They tear down houses of the Palestinians. They have a crippling blockade on the Palestinians. You have to look at it from the other side as well.

What the the US did to the native Americans was akin to the holocaust, but it isn't portrayed as such in the history books. History is written by the victor, but what Israel is doing is pretty bad too.

 

This is absolutely true - but there still would be oppression. Hamas' goal is to destroy Israel, and Israel is absolutely right to try to obliterate them. But the reason the general Palestinian population supports Hamas is not to destroy Israel - it's because they are oppressed and Hamas stands up for them. An oppressed population will almost always rise up and fight that oppression. If Israel changed their economic policies that create permanent poverty within the Palestinian population, they could undercut some of the popular support of Hamas. At the very least, it's certainly worth a look, given that their current strategy over the past few decades hasn't exactly resolved anything.