Royce White skips game and practice (UPDATE: White issues statement)

At least I'm still on the team. You're Jeremy Lamb, lol. TRADED.

 

if everyone with a mental disorder acted the way royce white is behaving, we'd be unf***ing employable. it's not he world's job to baby you. it's your job to get the psycho therapy, behavioral therapy, meds you need to function. i don't know what his doctor has done for him (if it really is his Primary Care Physician, then that's ridiculous) but clearly it's not enough. Having a mental disorder does not give you a free pass to lash out at your employer or make half baked threats.

He needs to get his **** together, find a form of therapy that works for him (the current one isn't) and then apologize to the organization and the fans.

 

From one expert to another, I think he is bipolar like I am. If it were merely an anxiety disorder he wouldn't be Charlie Sheening out on twitter. That seems more like mania to me. I wouldn't compare an anxiety disorder to cancer but I do compare bipolar to cancer partly because of the suicide rate but also because of the severity of the disease.

Good response though. Thanks. Are you a doctor or a patient?

 

oh, damn :grin:

 

I see what you did there. :grin:

 

either bi-polar or single child brat with no father

 

Yeah, 'cause kids with two parents are never brats.

 

Thanks. I'm a psychologist but am not without my own issues.

He may have some bipolar traits. Hard to know just by his tweets. His constant and impulsive tweets do have a manic feel to them but I think it is just his anxiety and lack of insight more than anything. I mean, the guy is probably just in isolation by himself most of the time and instead of spending his energy working hard, he is spending it trying to find better ways to deflect blame and avoid facing his fears. But who knows what his actual diagnoses are.

 

Awesome post. Repped.

I'd also say to everyone that says he's making a fool of himself or making those with mental health issues look bad, of course he is. He thinks he's completely in the right and from any sane perspective he's completely in the wrong. But he truly believes he is completely in the right. Because he is crazy. Craziness is often a symptom of being crazy. Crazy people might "go crazy," for example, and do crazy things they might later regret. And that is largely why people avoid crazy people... it is even a pretty good excuse for the stigma of mental illness... Crazy people often do things that seem utterly indefensible and often are.

I don't think anyone can look at Royce White's tweets (of course I haven't seen him play because I don't have Comcast) and say he's not crazy. He's freaking crazy. And he probably does need to see his own doctor because crazy people need to be comfortable with their doctors or the treatment isn't effective.

I don't say any disease is an excuse for acting crappy, not showing up, taking **** about the organization, being grandiose, or generally being irresponsible. I don't claim that mental illness is an excuse for any of those behaviors, in most cases. I only offer it as a sort of explanation to those who seem so confused by his behavior.

He clearly believes he is in the right to be doing what he's doing and we all find him to be doing the wrong thing. Dude is crazy. That doesn't mean he can't play. They could still work this out. Rodman was crazy too. So is Artest. And they've both been great players.

 

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The difference with Rodman was, once he got on the court, he was all basketball and driving the opposing team nuts. With Royce, it's like it'll be hell just getting him on the court or even thinking about basketball.

 

I'll chime in and add to bill Bradley's post. I'm a LPC and concur with most of his assessment. I'll add that treating anxiety requires confrontation of the trigger, normalizing the source anxiety, and learning to cope with the experience when it is triggered. I'll also say though that anxiety disorders are hardly ever isolated issues. Anxiety disorders almost always develop because of other issues (trauma, family of origin stuff, etc). That is the work for his mental health professional to source and work on with him.

That said, I've said it before and I'll say it again.....his behavior doesn't seem like its brought on by an anxiety attack. If that we're the case he wouldn't be saying anything at all. He'd be frozen. His behavior doesn't seem manic either.... Though there is a compulsive element to it. I seriously believe its just your everyday, run of the mill immaturity issue wrapped in the coincidence that he has an anxiety disorder.

It miiiight be a personality disorder of some sort but that'd be hard to tell without knowing how he handles personal relationships. Seems like typical entitlement issues that this young generation tends to demonstrate.

 

The fact that he's having trouble going to practices indicates depression as a possible contributing factor and this is about the time in one's life that manic depression, or major depression, often presents for the first time. It is difficult for me to think the worse of him because he is in isolation or because he is failing to spend his energy productively. Those are Depression 101 symptoms. His tweets indicate mania and grandiosity. And pretty much all manic depressives have issues with anxiety. He talks about the anxiety disorder so I assume that's his diagnosis. As such I expect he's taking benzos when he should instead (or also) be taking a mood stabilizer and possibly an anti-depressant. This does not seem like something it is currently in his power to control without medication and bipolar should never go unmedicated. At the least he should be on a mood stabilizer if he does indeed meet the criteria. (It seems plain to me he does.) I find it hard to blame him because I just don't think he can help it but I understand why others do blame him.

One of the main reasons you see so many crazy people living on the streets is that crazy people are often unemployable. Many cannot meet the demands of a job. To judge them by any metric except the one by which their doctors would judge them seems wrong-headed to me. But it seems like we should have a place for these people to go other than a mental hospital, since we don't have any of those that actually seem to work in this country. If we did, Eddie Griffin might be playing basketball today. And thousands and thousands of people none of us ever heard of might be alive today instead of dead at their own hands.

 

Royce White told the media that he does not take medication for his anxiety disorder. Seems to me he should swallow his pride and start taking medication, because his current method of trying to get healthy is really working well right now.

 

I also agree with every single word in this post.

 

I think he would benefit enormously from Lamotrigine. Nothing he is trying is working for him right now. Then again, if he is bipolar and I remain convinced he is, if he isn't on a mood stabilizer nothing can work for him.

 

I just got fired from my job for anxieties and for not being valued. My life has come crashing down. I'm still dealing with anxieties, ALONE.

I know people with narcissistic personality disorder. Its THIS SAME stuff here that Royce is doing

It definitely seems its just Royce by himself, trying to figure things out trying to do the right things, what the BELIEVES to be RIGHT, having to lean on inspirational quotes and sayings to guide him. Ruminating like hell. He's going after authority figures to project himself as someone who "isnt SCARED or FEARFUL", yet its fear thats put him in the predicament to begin with.

I know craziness doesnt care about money and fame, it'll exist just because. I do feel bad for Royce. Still, I offer little to NO SYMPATHY for the WAY Royce is going about it though. There's a lot of immaturity there. He's probably not as developed in maturity as a result of his conditions, but at some point you just gotta face the world with what you have and have the public breakdowns.

 

It doesn't sound like he's trying anything. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but he takes no medication and the only doctor he's comfortable with is a family practitioner. He is refusing to see a highly-credentialed specialist at one of the more prestigious medical institutions in the country. It seems to me that his method of coping is having those around him bend to his will. Isn't that kind of an enabling situation?

 

Fantastic entry. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Sometimes it seems like the worst cases and hardest to detect are young people who are very well spoken, eloquent, and seemingly educated.

Just because they can speak fluently, quote shakespeare, and debate well doesn't mean he's not a scared frightened young punk kid inside.

Royce really needs a good chat from Robin Williams by the duck pond.

 

You kidding,

Its like 1/2 of ALL WOMEN at LEAST. Why the F**K do THEY get AWAY with these kind of HISTRIONICS and tantrums as a NORM?

Thats what upsets me a lot of times with these things. You can say Royce is approaching things like a GIRL. And in a way it should be COMMENDABLE cuz it works for THEM lol. But then its just more confusing with the inherent gender "bias" worked in and all that.

It was mentioned earlier that attitudes have changed towards PTSD and drug abuse. Still in this day and age, it seems males are supposed to just "tough it out" with a little "elbow grease" when they wake up in the morning, and women get the cries and support. But its not about that....save that for another time.

It still seems to me Royce is WAY past any regular help that bros or women or anyone can give him.