Kelvin Sampson discusses the Rockets' growth on offense, the Jeremy Lin-James Harden

If this is really how the coaching staff feels he is best utilized then they should just trade him. He is an off the dribble shooter and not a jump shooter. Force feeding Asik on offense is a joke. You cant rely on him to be an offensive threat which ruins pick and roll. The ball movement is a joke on this team. The first two games were great and then all of a sudden it became this grind it out bs. Limiting a player like Jeremy Lin is not helping his game..you are crushing his development. Young guards need to be free to make mistakes and I am sure the FO sees this. I expect things to change quickly otherwise the chemistry on this team will never develop.

 

Of course we're not isolating all the time. Not even Michael Jordan had a usage rate of 100% (if I recall, it was 33% or thereabouts).

As for Omer being more involved, Lin has been consistently trying to do that from day 1 in training camp.

Harden has been shooting 0.330 the past five games, which is a drastic decline. So tell me, how exactly is the team benefiting from the new offense?

 

Chill, they are just testing things out. If you can see it, they can see it.

 

Epic failure, judging a point guard based on purely assist numbers --- Are you saying Jose Calderon has been a top 5 point guard for the past 3 years based on your logic?

Don't, just don't.

 

Lol Sessions? AJ Price? GENERAL GREIVIS VASQUEZ? Give me a break. Also if he's middle of the pack average, then he's playing up to his average contract.

 

Let's hope so.

But never underestimate the impact of sheer stubbornness. That's why there are people who still believe the Earth is flat.

 

LOL. bunch of crying babies. I gave you a list that measures the most important attribute of a point guard, that is assists per game. Of course that's not all. but who are we kidding? even if I gave you all kinds of stats to prove Lin is an average PG, you can always find other excuses. that's what you LOFs are good at - finding excuses

 

So average assists per game even though Lin's usage rate is bottom 10% for all 67 PGs in the league? Not bad.

 

well if you're talking like that, how do you justify Lin's 12pts/$8mil vs say Lowry's 18pts/$5.7mil?

 

No it's not. Raw assist numbers are some what important, but to determine whether a point guard is better than another there are more complicated matrix for that purpose, aka assist/to ratio, usage rate, roll in the offense and minutes played, etc.

I'm not going to break it down for you, why? Can't be bothered. You are clearly trolling and have lost the case when you said assist is the most important stats for a PG.

Now keep telling yourself Jose Calderon is better than DWill, Lowry, Lawson.

 

Lowry's a chump.

 

Because Lowry is underpaid.

 

You say assists per game is the most important stat to a PG and then you throw up points per game? Or are you saying that points per game should solely determine a player's salary and worth?

 

Yes, please don't bother. Because no matter how hard you try, you're still going to find out Lin's performance so far is average at best.

Not saying he won't improve. I sure hope he does. I don't want to see Rox have $24m tied up on an average role player.

 

Ummm Lin is not exactly first option to run the team, most of his assists come from broken play...

 

LOL.

Lowry:
MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
31.0 0.545 0.444 0.944 1.30 4.50 5.80 6.3 3.00 0.50 2.50 2.50 18.3

Lin:
34.7 0.373 0.308 0.905 1.00 3.60 4.60 6.4 2.43 0.43 2.57 2.43 11.9

You tell me.

 

Actually, what you are doing is using the statistic out of context in order to advocate your personal opinion.

This shows that you are either willfully ignoring the context, or that you don't understand the statistic.

Even if we accept your hypothesis that Assists are the defining attribute of a Point Guard, then Assists per Game is one of the WORST possible statistics to make that argument with any level of certainty.

There are far more meaningful statistical measures that can account for pace, and the type of shots (2 or 3 pointer).

This is aside from the fact that the Assist statistic is in itself a flawed statistic. Assists do NOT account for poor shooters, nor do they account for players with stone hands, nor do they account for the quality of the pass itself (was it to a wide open Parsons at 15 feet, or a contested 24 foot 3 point shot by Lebron that somehow goes in), nor do they account for quality passes that result in foul shots, or quality passes that lead to an open pass to an open shooter (hockey assists).

Quite simply, if I make 30 passes to Dwight in a PnR, I'm going to get very different results than if I make those same 30 passes to Asik.

However, Assists are NOT the single defining attribute of a PG. Scoring counts for something. As does rebounding and defensive play.

Player impact is more than the sum of passes that result in shots, and this applies to the PG position as it does to any other position.

If a PG makes a turnover, it *may* result in 2 points for the opposition. However, if the PG steals a pass, it *may* result in 2 points for the home team. Similarly, an empty possession due to good defense or an extra possession due to rebounding can have a similar impact on the overall scoring as forcing a turnover.

Whether offensively or defensively, they all lead to extra possessions which in the grand scheme lead to extra shots which lead to extra points.

Whether you gain those extra points through higher quality passes (offensive officiency) or due to stolen and retained possessions (defensive efficiency), the end result is the same -- advantage home team.

Thus, I completely disregard your argument, as it is attempting to extrapolate a level of performance based upon an isolated statistic without context.

This has nothing to do with being a LOF, it has everything to do with fairly assessing a player's true impact, whether that player is Lin, Harden, Asik, Parsons or White (impact zero so far!).

 

Lame rhetorical strategy. Mad fan projecting anger onto others. Chill. :grin:

But all joking aside, yes, Sampson sees it, and he likes it. There's nothing to 'fix', it's fixed already: Lin is relegated to somewhere between 3rd and 5th option and that's exactly what the coaching staff, esp. sampson, want.

 

Did I every say Lin's performance so far isnt average?

He has been playing sub-par and I acknowledge that, but it's early in the season and Lin's track record gives me more than enough reason to believe that he will improve.

What we've been doing here is to find out the reasons behind his struggle, of course he's responsible, but there are other factors as well.

 

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