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[Rox:Heat] The last 18 seconds

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DXtreme, Nov 13, 2012.

  1. CoolColJ

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    Conclusion = Harden is a Diva :mad:
     
  2. kinein

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    5 for 10 from beyond the arc. The overall IS the game.
    Your worst 3 pt shooter that night was James Harden. The guys a star for his offensive output and ability to make those around him better. When your shot ain't dropping pass the ball. Ive seen Kobe and Melo shoot themselves out of games plenty of Times.
     
  3. kinein

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    Parsons, Lin, Delfino all ahead of Harden for that last thing shot.
     
  4. JayGoogle

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    Here is what I am mostly saying.

    There was time to get the ball to whoever, but there was not time to get anyone a open shot. I watched the play over and over and that is Bosh on Parsons. Bosh is a quick guy, the space in the picture is not enough for Parsons, Bosh would have closed that gap while the pass was being made.

    Any ways what we are arguing is that Parsons should have taken the shot instead of Harden. That's fine, I know Parsons is clutch but SO is HArden.

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    Playoff game.

    Any ways of course if the play is executed, but it was not. Everyone was covered including Parsons. Yeah he had just a bit of space but his defender is literally a step away from him and it would have taken a mental Westbrook-esque meltdown for his defender to leave him open in that situation...especially when his defender followed him across the court and watched him the entire time.
     
  5. kinein

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    Tying OT shot I mean. IPhone autocorrect fml.
     
  6. juicystream

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    Lin, the man who just shot an airball, and has never been a good 3pt shooter? :confused:
     
  7. kinein

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    2/7 is still greater than 1/7 and no one airballs twice in a row.
     
  8. TheMystery008

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    James is a better defender than Bosh.

    So, I'll rather take my chances with Bosh on Parsons.

    James was all over Harden, giving Harden little space to shoot.

    Anyway, what is done is done.

    No need to argue.

    Good experience for everyone nonetheless.
     
  9. kinein

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    1/6 I mean, iPhone fail
     
  10. kinein

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    Agreed but I'm not going to hate on Harden for taking the shot. Some ppl are mistaking me for saying that without context. I replied to someone that asked who would you have wanted to take the last shot to tie.
     
  11. juicystream

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    Except for when the do. Blake Griffin airballed consecutive free throws just last season.
     
  12. RocketForever

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    Tough to watch this clip. It is a major breakdown in everything.
     
  13. split41

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    I agree, and I think if Lin doesn't end up improving this season, he's gone.
     
  14. Jetfuel

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    Lin's actual play has improved this season. He's taking care of the ball better, making better decisions in transition and defending better.

    But he's also gone from being the number one/two option and primary playmaker on the Knicks to being a number 5 option, spot up three point SG.

    But I agree with your last line. If this is how they're going to play him, I hope he gets traded somewhere that wants to use him as a PG.
     
  15. split41

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    I meant more from the position of an SG. If he can't prove he can play as an SG he's gone. Harden's the point guard here, he's the playmaker and if Lin's game is still subpar with that dynamic he's gone.
     
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    2 out of the 4 losses so far have really come down to costly coaching decisions in the crunch in very winnable games. Portland game not calling a timeout to drawup a play with 19 seconds to go and harden in the end trying to shoot a 3. Now this Miami game, with harden having too many iso plays in the crunch resulting in stagnated offense and poor offensive selections.

    We can make excuses about players not having experience, but its abit of a cop out when the coaches themselves should have the experience to know what to do at the end of games.
     
  17. nono

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    True, good post. This is a repeating pattern. In both games we lost the same way. Teams are going to look at this and they'll know that down the stretch all they have to do is put their best defender on Harden and watch him force contested 3 pointers.
     
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    Then move him. Because he isn't a SG & trying to make him something he isn't is preposterous to me. Either move him or use him properly. He isn't a SG & asking him to prove that he can be something he isn't is the dumbest thing ever.
     
  19. DXtreme

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    Moving Lin is not the smartest move, for the Org. nor Jeremy Lin himself. He needs to prove he belongs in the NBA with any kind of players(STARS). We move him then it's gonna be hard on the org. and Lin himself, he'll get a tag as " not able to mesh with star players" and that's not a good tag for someone of his current state
     
  20. kinein

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    Jeremy Lin hit 10 consecutive free throws just last season :D

    haha, I only said he WOULDNT airball it. I didn't guarantee he would make it.

    Lin isn't 100% yet and spot-up isn't his forte.

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    Until his shooting form gets back to the shots you see in here.

    He won't be back to the same level as last year.

    Though I did catch a few seconds of his swagger vs Miami - and I loved his tenacious defense.

    All the pieces still need work - then they have to be put together.
     

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