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Jeremy Lin needs to get to the FT line, FFS

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by zdrav, Nov 12, 2012.

  1. mirus

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    Young snare is too much for me LOLZ.thanks for cheering up.repped:p
     
  2. duteman

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    Him and harden aren't really getting the calls. I don't know what the deal is but they take a lot of contact. I would say Lin takes as much contact as i see lowry take on his drives, but lowry gets the calls without being a superstar.

    Can someone enlighten me on the difference between these two are? Both Lin and Lowry are very physical and aggressive when going to the rim, but why does Lowry get a higher rate for fouls?
     
  3. loveofthegame44

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    Posted this in another thread but I wish we could get an answer from some one close to the team.
    Why do you guys think it is that Lin rarely gets to run the offense, especially the pick and role. This is his only strength as a player. Harden is much better spot up shooter than Lin. Teams are double and triple teaming harden on pnr. Although lins handles scare me playing against smallerand quicker PG I still think he has a greatcrossover. I think they should run pnr more with Lin and he needs to keep his dribble if nothing is there. And use harden as secondary offense. But if you arent going to play him to his strength andharden is going to be primary ball handler you might as well put Douglas out there. And let lin bea spark of the bench. Lin has to have the ball to do what he does best.
     
  4. Yao4REAL

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    Lin is playing like Melo is in the lineup. He doesn't have to do that anymore and should realize that attacking is his strength. It's one thing to see defense that stop you from attacking and it's another if you don't even try it. To me, Lin is not even trying to attack anymore...
     
  5. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    If Jeremy could actually finish around the rim and stop being scared when he gets in the paint them maybe.
     
  6. loveofthegame44

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    it seems that on a majority of the plays that harden is getting the ball at the top of the key to start playing pick and roll. Why so much pnr with harden and omer and not lin and omer or ppat. He can get in the lane and teams aren't stacking up to stop him like they are with harden. If we get in to our offense quickly there Is time for lin to penetrate and probe if nothings there get it to harden when d is NT set let him shot open three our another pnr. lin must be sucking in practice.
     
  7. torocan

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    Actually, he doesn't. That's mostly the error of false perception/distorted memory.

    And1% (percentage of plays that result in an and1 call)

    Jeremy Lin
    2011/12 - 4.2%
    2012/13 - 4.0%

    Kyle Lowry
    2010/11 - 2.2%
    2011/12 - 2.7%
    2012/13 - 0.0%

    As for the actual NUMBER of fouls being drawn this year, that has taken a HUGE drop this year for Lin however that is very much a part of the role he is being asked to play.

    Here is Jeremy Lin's shot attempts by location (how much of each shot type) per 40 minutes

    2011/12
    At the Rim - 5.9
    3-9 Feet - 3.0
    10-15 Feet - 1.2
    16-23 Feet - 2.9
    Behind the Arc - 3.2

    2012/13
    At the Rim - 4.6
    3-9 Feet - 0.8
    10-15 Feet - 0.5
    16-23 Feet - 1.7
    Behind the Arc - 4.3

    So, we see an increase in shooting from behind the 3 point line of 32%, and across the board declines in other types of shooting, especially in the 3-9 foot range.

    It's self-evident that Lin is not driving into the paint as often and the stats confirm this. The only question is why.

    There are lots of potential factors that could explain this.

    -Lack of good PnR partners
    -Poor spacing due to lack of 3 point shooters
    -Defenses specifically adjusting to defend against PnR penetration
    -Inadequate offensive playsets
    -Team inexperience
    -Poor offensive chemisty with team mates
    -Being asked to play out of position
    -Physically being unable to penetrate

    As usual, personal biases will influence the observer. Folks often see what they want to see.
     
  8. Angkor Wat

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    What happened to him? I thought him putting the ball in the hoop would be the least of our worries. But he's struggled to hit his shot or get to the line. Seems like his confidence is shot. I don't know but I hope he snaps out of it.
     
  9. JJ23

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    I would go with:

    Lack of good PnR partners/Team inexperience
    Inadequate offensive playsets
    Being asked to play out of position
     
  10. liunatic

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    Though I agree with you, there are many people that don't want Lin handling the ball citing his apparent loose handle and being turn over prone...For the people that disapprove of him, I'm not sure how you are going to build trust in him if you don't let him try to take the bulk of the possessions. Otherwise its just a self fulfilling prophecy..
     
  11. liunatic

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    Random tidbit: Harden leads the NBA in free throw makes
     
  12. loveofthegame44

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    His handles are a little shaky especially when some one like Ty Lawson or cp3 is guarding him up the court But when he stars to initiate the offense his crossover is good as well as his hesitation move. Give it to harden in crunch time that's fine. Him with out the ball his contract is pointless. He can throw dimes he has some ability they just need to let him show it.
     
  13. loveofthegame44

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    Lins contract
     
  14. bloodwings19

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    This is a different Lin we are seeing, with the Knicks he was going to the FT line at least on average 6 FTs a game, his best was 13 FTs in a game. I believe if the Rocket want the Knicks Lin, they just need to tell him to go do his stuff. Right now, I believe Lin is playing with a bit of reservation, probaly trying to play perfect like Yao. He should just let it go, don't worry about being perfect.
     
  15. Naija Texan

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    Lin came into this season expecting to play PG and now the coaches mainly have him playing SG with his own hustle to get rebounds/steals or play defense making him have the stat line of a SF.

    As a player, Lin needs to work on his mid range game, he has a inconsistent 3 ball but is a great attacker. Teams know this and dare him to beat them with the 3 ball, if he can get his mid range jumpers going down more, he could be much more effective even with the coach's mishandling of what his and Harden's positions should be. He can't be dependent on getting to the FT line, that is a problem too many NBA players try to build their game around because if the refs aren't calling it you have Kevin Martin from the previous season.

    Lin has potential to be a very good player but it is going to be on the coaches to get him active in the offensive game. So far, the coaching staff issues with developing offenses still appears to be a problem, the last few games have shown improvement but mistakes and bad calls are still there.
     
  16. NL Rocket

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    Teams easily double team Lin when he comes into the painted area because Asik stays close to the basket and can't catch a pass and Patterson so far hasn't been forceful enough to get the ball when his man leaves to double Lin. Like others have said, he also gets kind of scared when he goes inside and picks up his dribble. He jumps into the air and forces bad passes.

    He's clearly lacking his explosiveness that he showed in NY and seems reluctant to attack the basket. This is because during Linsanity he had to score because of injuries to Melo & Amare, now he needs to be more of a PG. He doesn't have Chandler to throw passes to and Harden takes a lot of PG duties so it's a lot different than in NY.

    Nothing to worry about, it will come with time.
     
  17. GoRockets!

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    Add some other comments from Sampson about Lin:

    1. Wtach the OP clip, at 2:37, Jason asking about Harden and Lin both need ball in their hands:
    Sampson: ...As a coach, you decide which hands do you want the ball in? That's the strength of Jeremy. BUT James is one of the best players in the league creating shots. James was finding Chandler, Carlos and even Lin.... But Lin missed the shot.

    2. The interview Jason did with Samson at the beginning of the season:

    JCF: You had Jeremy Lin in for the abbreviated training camp last year, but do you almost have to rediscover his game as well?

    Sampson: Absolutely. I was watching tape on him yesterday – I watched New York and Dallas – and Jeremy had such incredible freedom; he was their offense when he was on the floor. They put him in pick-and-rolls, they’d screen him and then re-screen him. He would attack the rim and if he could get to the rim he did, and if not he’d kick out and they’d play. With us, we’re going to give him some freedom because obviously he’s good at that, but we’re also going to have rules in our transition offense that he’s going to have to learn so it’s going to be interesting to see how he picks those things up.

    I think the biggest challenge for Jeremy is going to be taking care of the ball and being able to defend bigger, stronger, quicker, more athletic point guards. He’s got to get tougher in those areas. So Jeremy’s got some work to do

    http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/qa-kelvin-sampson

    Sampson's Comments are all fair. But he just does not sound high on Lin, does he?

    Hearing Sampson's all these comments, no wonder people start to suspect if Sampson's attitude towards Lin leads to Lin's obvious lack of confidence on the court.
     
  18. slickster

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    Sampson is just a knucklehead, plain and simple. He's just a stupid asst. coach filling in. He's not supposed to make Lin fit into HIS system. He's supposed to create a system that makes the most of Lin's abilities. That's why Lin makes 10X as much as Sampson.

    This is just getting stupid. McHale and Sampson need to be gone.

    The sad part is that Lin is just too damn humble for his own good. Someone needs to b**** slap Sampson.
     
  19. <3myrockets

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    definitely being misused by deferring to harden majority of the time. shift the defense around by setting backscreens for harden. if all we do is PnR all day long, we're going to end in ISO mode and throw up contested 3's all night long. james is a dangerous player in ISO...imagine having to chase him down and force all this defensive confusion for the other team and him either finishing for the and 1 or using his great floor vision for the open shot. just gotta mix it up ya know?
     

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