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Lin's scrutiny

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kaitanuva, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. Coban Hutton

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    Lin + Asik + filler for Gasol, right? :p
     
  2. Spiegel

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    Lin yes, Asik hell no. Asik is a monster. bigs like him who can change a game on defense are a dying breed.
     
  3. Coban Hutton

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    Yeah, I'm being sarcastic.
     
  4. iconoclastism

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    Lin would be a good PG off the bench for LAL.


     
  5. MOFvsLOF

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    Just Lin, Lakers clears some cap space, Rockets has ton of cap space, works for both.
     
  6. Rockets2K

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    Rockets do NOT have 14M in cap space

    and they wont be trading Lin for Gasol anyway...anyone who thinks differently isn't using their brain.
     
  7. MOFvsLOF

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    According to yahoo sports, excluding Harden, Aldrich and Cook, Rockets' cap is 19M.
     
  8. torocan

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    Yah, I don't see them just cutting Gasol for Lin. They would need to sweeten the deal on both sides.

    Without Lin the Rockets don't have a PG.

    If the Lakers trade Gasol, I can easily see them asking for Delfino and Parsons too... maybe even PPat or Morris.
     
  9. AdrenaLINe

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    Im a Lin fan...and even I know that LA would not trade Gasol for Lin, maybe Harden and some fillers

    so much hate on this board for Lin, you got delusional posters, coming up with delusional post...

    on one hand they think Lin is a scrub, on the other hand they think they can trade Lin for Gasol
     
  10. iconoclastism

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    I am not a LOF. I am a Lin fan for sure and I feel sorry for the fella. I advise patience to all LOFs and LOHs.

    I feel Lin is good enough as a rookie/sophomore with only 70 career games, averaging 20 minutes per game and only 31 starts. Shoots 7 times per game on average. For someone who went un-drafted, traded a few times, on the brink of playing in Europe doing what he is doing is nothing short of remarkable.

    Lin should be allowed to grow, learn and make mistakes. BUT! Lin is being compared to veterans with years under their belts and being treated as such.

    I would like to use John Wall as an example. Drafted No.1. Played 135 games, started 130, averaging 37 minutes per game. On average shoots 14 times per game. Washington is currently 0-5. I wonder where is the scrutiny on Wall considering that he the the No.1 pick of last year, touted to be the future elite PG? Instead, he is allowed to grow.........

    Goran Dragic, a PG considered by many to be more superior than Lin, played in 278 games over the last 5+ years and started only 43 games.

    Why compare Dragic to Lin when Lin is 24 yrs old and in a the youngest NBA team. Lin should be allowed to grow along with Harden and Asik.

    This core will be the foundation to getting another superstar to contend seriously in the next few years.

    If anyone who think that Lin is not it, give me a PG that is as young that can be part of a core for many years that will sign a 8m/yr contract.

    The negative media attention Lin gets is unwarranted. The overwhelming positive media attention Lin gets may be looked at by some as undeserving for such a green PG but you have to understand that in the white and black dominated US media, an Asian American who can rise against all odds is a feel good story. In 10 years, guys like SAS, Felton....who "dissed" Lin will be looked at like like those detractors that put down black players in white dominated sports for the past 50 years by using what ever stats, excuses just to confirm their own bias and bigotry.


    Having said that, I think Lin is just above average. His current PER is 15.80. The league average is 15. Lin is in the top 35% but still behind more than 100 players.

    LOFs have to stop with all that LIN worshiping when he is just slightly above average and expectations should be such. Give Lin a couple of years or three then we will know whether Lin will live up to his potential or not.

    An above average player should be allowed to grow and learn but not to take a whole franchise into his own hands by initiating every offense. That's why the Knicks let Lin go. Carmelo is the No. 3 player currently and who do you trust? Lin or Carmelo? ..... or for the Rockets, Harden or Lin?

    Lin has to learn how to be productive under a controlled environment and learn to adjust to the system instead of freewheeling and have other players adjust to him. He is a fast learner and I am very sure that he will be that PG LOFs want in 2-3 years.

    Just not now.
     
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  11. JJ23

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    anyone who says lin's a scrub doesn't know bball. even Stephen A Smith acknowledges lin is an above average player. I agree with the above post...it's not fair to compare him with PGs with more years of experience and PT than him. If you go back and look at the first 2 years of past and current elite PGS in the league, you will see their stats are worse or similar to Lin's. The only exception I can think of is CP3 and DRose.
     
  12. DXtreme

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    People compared Lin with vet PG's, they even compare him with Nash,Rose, and #1 pick Wall?

    For a undrafted PG Lin already won
     
  13. MOFvsLOF

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    Now, if Rockets trades Lin to Lakers for Gasol, that'll be win-win.
     
  14. pcheung08

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    +1......
     
  15. Roxnostalgia

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    Uhhhhh..win for Lin and for Lin fans. Lakers? Not so much.
     
  16. MOFvsLOF

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    Don't forget cap space.
     
  17. Roxnostalgia

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    Can space? Like you'd rather have Lin wear a LAL cap that a Rockets cap?
     
  18. Air Langhi

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    How about Lin and Asik for Howard.
     
  19. slickster

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    I can't criticize the players. They're just doing what they're told. These are very good players trying to accommodate silly instructions. Expect more frustrations with this current coaching staff.
     
  20. stl1622dc

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    Lin for Gasol would be lose-lose for both teams.

    Lose for Lakers
    - Lin may provide added scoring and security in case Nash has health issues, but he doesn't have the sort impact Gasol would have. They could get more for Gasol. Also, who would play PF?

    Lose for Rockets - Pau would be band aid to keep us mediocre and just delay us from getting another "foundational piece" to run alongside Harden. Is anyone going to be afraid of a Harden/Pau/Asik big 3? Who would play PG?
     

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