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Texans cut Holliday Sign Ruud and Cody White

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by htownrox1, Oct 10, 2012.

  1. HR Dept

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    Ok, you just made this up. The ST play has been bad, but come on.
     
  2. DieHard Rocket

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    Nope. Check the post-game transcript straight from the horse's mouth.

    Easily the dumbest decision Gary has made in 2 years IMO. But it also means that something drastic needs to happen with ST if he's avoiding pretty routine FGs due to trepidation over ST.
     
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  3. HR Dept

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    Well... My apologies to you on that one.

    If all that babble was his thought process then he should have thought about it a few more seconds. By then I'm sure his thoughts would have came full circle and he would have just kicked the field goal.
     
  4. Shroopy2

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    Personally I thought the Kubiak "team shakeup" before the Green Bay game making cuts and changes MIGHT have been some over-preparation too.

    I'm sure there's some examples where Bill Parcells, Jimmy Johnson, Belichek do the symbolic "accountability" measures to keep the team in check. I don't really blame the organization too much on that, and for Kubiak its damned if you do damned if you don't, cuz he's always criticized for being too "consistent". He did let go a mediocre returner from mediocre special teams. And the Texans needed the roster space for other positions of better need, so its understandable

    But maybe they coulda just went with some continuity with what they had into the Green Bay game (which they'd a probably lost anyway but still). Maybe putting unproven rookie Keyshawn Martin back there coulda had the same effect not coming out "strong'.
     
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    I don't think it was necessarily a dumb decision. The texans were up 21-9, almost 6 minutes left, on their 30 so punting is out of the question, graham doesn't have the biggest leg , and obviously they Already blocked one. You miss the FG, you give up 7 or 8 yards in field position, you get it blocked then who knows what happens , and even if they make it, the bills are still 2 score behind with a 2 pt conversation, i. e That FG still doesn't put the game away



    It was a
     
  6. DonnyMost

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    Holiday with another kick returned for a touchdown.

    The ST coach has to go.
     
  7. DreamShook

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    LOL of course.
     
  8. Mr Striker09

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    FIRE special teams coach ASAP!!!
     
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    So all the Denver special teams coach said to Holiday was to wait for your blocks? When he was here he just went straight into the mosh pit.

    got away with letting go of the ball..
     
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    Should have been a touchback. He fumbled the ball before he crossed the goaline.
     
  12. Mr Striker09

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    He's always getting positive yards.
     
  13. The Cat

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    To be fair, a big part of why the Texans cut Holliday was they believed him to be too erratic and careless. They weren't denying his explosion, but simply didn't trust him not to make a negative play (like Jacoby in Baltimore).

    The "touchdown" a few moments ago was an example of that. Great return, but carelessly dropped the ball before the end zone for a touchback. The only reason he's not being criticized now for an incomprehensible mental gaffe is because the officials inexplicably didn't review it.

    In other words, jury remains out.
     
  14. DreamShook

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    doesn't matter if it wasn't caught. 2 TDs on special teams...

    Even when the Texans are doing well it seems they can't catch a break.
     
  15. DonnyMost

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    The jury on the ST coaching is not out. The coverage and blocking is terrible, and it isn't a coincidence that Trindon has done better elsewhere with coaches teaching proper scheme and technique.
     
  16. The Cat

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    It DOES matter when you're evaluating the player, because what actually happened speaks to the likelihood of it happening again.
     
  17. The Cat

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    Certainly not denying that. Just saying the decision to cut Holliday was based largely on their fear of Holliday's unforced errors, the likes of which happened yet again on that "touchdown".
     
  18. Cannonball

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    There were a few seasons when our return game was pretty good (Andre Davis), but for the most part we've been mediocre to bad. A few of us have wanted Marciano gone for at least a few years now. You have to think his days as a Texan are becoming numbered but they haven't gotten rid of him before so you do have to wonder if they'll decide to keep him on. Kubiak is a very loyal guy. IIRC, he didn't want to get rid of Rick Smith or Frank Bush (at least one of the two) but McNair put his foot down and didn't give him the choice. If Bob doesn't do something similar here, I have my doubts about whether Kubes will fire Marciano on his own.
     
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  19. J.R.

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    Cowher at the half: Houston, we have a flaw in our system.
     
  20. Rocketball

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    On another note: Jacoby Jones ran won back today for 105 yards as well........
     

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