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Papa John's CEO John Schnatter Says Company Will Reduce Workers' Hours In Response To

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Pizza_Da_Hut, Nov 10, 2012.

  1. rtsy

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    Check the main page. I'm the only one criticizing Obama's wars and attacks on civil liberties. If you don't see similarities of insurance companies controlling health care policy and the industrial military complex influencing foreign policy then you ain't looking.
     
  2. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    Look at it this way then. Wealth is a finite resource. If I go ahead and acquire 50% of the resource pool of wealth I pay an initial tax on it. If I do not use much of that resource, it doesn't get redistributed back into the pool of resources, so I still have roughly the same amount of the pool but this time around I do not pay taxes on it. That is why a system based on income and not wealth will end up keeping the wealthy wealthy. I will concede maybe a system in between my extreme and your extreme is best, but as it stands the system in hand is wrong.
     
  3. HayesStreet

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    A few things I don't understand about this controversy:

    Why are Republicans so upset about policy that was created by the Heritage Foundation, adopted by a Republican governor, and supported nationally by Republican Congressmen BEFORE it was advanced as policy by the Obama administration? Is it BECAUSE it was advanced as policy by the Obama administrations? I find that curious.

    If these types of moves by businesses are not political, but rather necessities, why are all these announcements coming out after the Presidential election? The law hasn't changed, and the election of Romney wouldn't have changed the law. He never would have had the votes to repeal the law. Clearly the timing of these moves IS political retribution and not business driven as nothing changed business wise between this week and last.

    Why not do what you said you'd do, and pass on the cost? OK, STFU and add 14 cents to each pizza already. Is it really going to matter if the pizza is $7.99 or $8.13? Seriously. While there will be some of the expense you can deduct, and maybe some you'll have to pass on, at a minimum you'll get the PR advantage from providing HC to your employees, as well as a happier, healthier, and more loyal workforce. Grow up.
     
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  4. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    Amazing points. Will rep. Furthermore, as my mother previously pointed out to me this is also a time when layoffs followed by seasonal hires occur for a lot of companies as well. The reduction in hours as well as layoffs generally occur around this time of year. The explanation for this maybe because of Obamacare, but in truth it's just that magical time of year. People who do not like Obama are just seizing the moment and trying to take advantage of bad situation.
     
  5. Qball

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    Papa Johns? I rather eat the card board box the pizza comes in rather than the pizza...

    F Papa Johns and F John Schnatter
     
  6. Hak34

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    Then you are a bigger idiot that I ever expected. Maybe Papa himself should stop paying untold fortunes to Peyton Manning to endorse his Pizza. Better yet, how about not having commercials just to announce how this year they are going to "Give away 2 million pizza's".

    Seems fiscally responsible to be in business to make money, not give it away.
     
  7. Nook

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    Whah whah whah!
     
  8. trueroxfan

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    Are you lost? You just described the Democratic Party's strategy.

    When will you realize that jobs aren't guaranteed to you. You are not guaranteed anything in this country except life, liberty, and the PURSUIT of hapiness. The government should strive to make sure everything is equal, but they should force equality by taking from others to boost others. You just create a culture of dependency and eventually those that the tax burden has been levied on will find other ways and places to make their money.

    It's his company. He made the risks. He doesn't owe anyone anything.
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    no, you tax income not wealth.

    and yes, the idea is to keep the middle class overall as having the majority of the wealth...so that businesses can make money and capitalism can work.

    If that's wealth redistribution, perhaps you should visit France circa 1789 and scream at the top of your lungs how the rich are treated unfairly.
     
  10. DonnyMost

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    If he wants to fire employees, let him. Whats the problem? Do you work for him? No? Ok then you dont really have much of a say in it. If hes being so unjust then word will get around and the rep will spread and he will pay for it in the long run.
     
  12. DimeDropper

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    The Republican Party of outsourcing now pretends to care about American jobs? Is there any BS the right-wing won't run?
     
  13. ROXRAN

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    I will agree with y'all on the left. Stupid move. Don't punish the workers man. And it's not the party doing this, it's business decision makers who are acting to spite Obama.
     
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    F Manning too while we are at it....still I love the pizza tho. :eek:
     
  15. QdoubleA

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    I'm down with the "screw this guy" crowd but can't say I won't be using that 50% off coupon if the Texans win today.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    And if he sold his house today and moved into a studio apartment in the pawn shop district, it wouldn't cover a half week's worth of payroll for the billion dollar corporation that he built from scratch.
     
  18. Midixinormous

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    This. But he did raise his pizza's prices by $.50 to cover the $.14 lol.

    I have a feeling all this negative publicity could be good for Pizza Hut and Dominoes.
     
  19. Refman

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    This belies the OP's premise. If you increase the price of the pizzas, it isn't the big, wealthy company paying for the healthcare, it is the consumers. What we will wind up with is higher taxes to implement and administer Obamacare, higher health insurance premiums and higher prices as companies pass their costs to consumers.

    If you take the three cost increase components together, I cannot see how this system becomes more affordable for the middle class than what we had before.
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Fact is Obama care will lower costs for small businesses. Romney care did that in MA- and small businesses report having lower increases in health care - on par with inflation - since the reform was enacted.

    It's a big fat lie that these Republican right-wing owned businesses are pushing.
     

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