ClutchFans Game Thread: Pistons @ Rockets 11/10/2012

Dude when did I throw the racism card? Well I bet if Sampson had his choice, he would in fact start Douglas over Lin.

Well you think Im over reacting. Just wait till next game. And then we can talk about this again.

But really, I leave you with few questions.
Do you think Jeremy is getting the respect as one of the leaders of the team? Would anyone else who is not a rookie get same type of treatment like Jeremy did today (remember Sampson NEVER said he was giving Jeremy rest). Forget +/- = you really think Douglas is a better matchup than Lin against anybody?

 

It's great that any starter gets some rest in a blowout. We won't have many blowout wins to rest anybody lol.

The Rockets made big runs on the Pistons' bench (which is actually worse than ours). That's why Douglas got +13. Not because he played better, not because he was a better match up. It's because we had Harden, Parsons, and Morris (who was doing some damage) in the game against the inept Pistons bench, including Mr Will Bynum and Mr Kyle Singler.

 

well Lin needs to develop some attitude. Otherwise he will get burned by scrubs like Sampson because he is so nice.

 

Harden's minutes of 35 is actually the shortest time he's played since arriving in Houston.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hardeja01/gamelog/2013/

Saying it's a pathetic excuse means you haven't really looked at what happened and are just talking based on gut feel. If you look at Durvasa's post he has the site that shows exactly why TD played more minutes than usual, and if you look at the game log TD has a higher +/- than Lin, despite Lin having more PT. So looking at those facts is it still pathetic when Sampson says TD has a better matchup? Or is it that you're just too blinded by Lin love to see reason and look at the facts? And again, Lin started, and Lin had the most PT for pgs. And Asik only played 2 mins more than him. You have all these other facts, yet people like Solidz are screaming and throwing the race card around.

Sampson answered the questions as best as he could, he's not beholden to Jeremy Lin and doesn't have to state every single reason he could think off to explain his actions.

 

All of this pretty much.

Also, all the main guys played less minutes tonight.

Yep.

A real coach has the balls to do stuff like this.

I remember times when Pop would take out all of his starters in disgust and just roll with the bench guys win or lose.

Any ways if that's how he felt about, that's how he felt about it. The team ran away with the W and last I saw the players seemed happy with the W. Moving on to Miami.

It's been said many times though now that the team actually did well when TD was in the game. It's not that big of a deal.

Miami game is on Monday, not that far away. You can do that, it's a blowout game. Why play your starters? Had Lin played in in that 4th and tore his knee up everyone would have crucified Sampson for having him in the game. All of the starters played less minutes. Good, they are going to need to play perfect to even have a shot at Miami.

 

sampson is a Lumbee Indian.
Just saying.no offense to any

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_Sampson

 

Look, TD sucks...but DET Pistons sucks even more, how come we need our most important players such as Lin and Asik to play around 38 mins in the second night of the back2backs?

Tell me the reason, what's worth the risk to ruin Lin or Asik's knees?

 

what da hell does that mean? So dump?

 

avg so far this reg. season. (6 gms)

 

or dumb

 

Hey Lorenzo, it's obvious that english is not your first language but sampson did NOT say it was because they were resting him. IF so, I wouldn't have care as much. It's the actual reason that he gave that got me up in arms. Basically confirmed why Lin has not been utilized to the best of his ability.

It is about disrespect. A lot of you are trying to justify him playing less minutes with your own reasoning, but my problem is with what SAMPSON said. Tell me how you can't construe that as being utter disrespect.

 

Solid, your problem is you're assuming Douglas will never play better than Lin EVER. That's not true, Lin will have games where he plays worse, and then Douglas will have games where he plays better than normal.

The +/- is an indicator of what happened during the game. When Lin sat down and TD came in, the ROckets outscored the Pistons by 11 pts. What you're saying is, Sampson should have looked at the Rockets going on a run, called a timeout, broke it up and then put Lin in again for no apparent reason. I don't think that's a reasonable argument to make, you can't expect your coach to make illogical moves just so your favorite player will get more PT.

Again, if Sampson hates Lin he could've had him start but play him very little. Yet Lin got the most PT out of all the pgs. How do you explain that? What you're complaining about is he got less PT than normal, and again this was explained because the Rox went on a run when TD was playing.

 

I can't write good cuz I don't want to write good to argue with you...

 

Right it's because POP disrespected and didn't trust Tony as a player. That is exactly my argument. Sampson doesn't respect or trust Jeremy as a player. Do you really think that statement shows high regard he has for Jeremy?

And don't gimme me bs about everyone getting less minutes - he didn't give a reason for anyone else getting less minutes because of a bad match up

The question is what did Jeremy do so badly to deserve this.

And plus Sampson is not Pops. Just because he beat the Pistons doesn't mean he is now Phil Jackson.

 

You really take everything said at face value?



At least wait a bit before jumping the gun, today's game was a blowout and rotations weren't exactly typical. If this pattern of disrespecting Lin continues, go ahead and have a field day, but for now, it's just knee jerk.

 

He played the most minutes of any pg on the squad. How is that a disrespect? Also, Sampson said TD was a better matchup and the facts (TD+13, Lin+3) showed that. Again how is this a disrespect? You keep repeating your same arguments without giving any logical reasons for it.

 

What Sampson said did seem a little odd to me. But in the big picture I don't see any harm in what he said. I understand they need to build on TD's decent outing because the team will need him to burn some minutes while Lin and Harden rest. Livingston is gone and Machado's D is not NBA ready. TD is an important piece that they can't afford to lose until someone better comes along.

It's more about building up TD's confidence than disrespecting Lin, imo.

 

BS. all of this. you're telling me +/- of someone playing against a Piston's 2nd unit means anything? 7 other players were +10 and Smith was +20. and this is something you use as a point to prove Sampson's matchup excuse is valid? just throw anything out there why don't you. and why is it that when Lin's +/- was the best on the team, "LOF's are overreacting"? it's not that we're "blinded by Lin love", it's that you're blinded by Lin hate to be coming up with these bs.

 

+/- is meaningful but not tell all the truth. But I kinda agreed with you. Anyway, Pistons is the worst team right now so we don't need Lin to handle the opponent's back-up PG. S-whoever, wake up!

 

It's not about disrespect at all.

Wow man. Overreaction much? Any time a player is benched is not being disrespected. Sometimes it is ALL about the matchups.

He didn't give a reason for everyone else because he was not asked. Also it is pretty much known that in a NBA season if you can rest your guys you do it, no questions asked. This is pretty standard stuff.

You get young players more time
You also prevent any freak accidents from happen
You still win the game

He actually bought Lin back in the game to finish it. That should end any notion about this disrespect mess, the best players always finish games (as Harden usually did for OKC) but the thing is...they extended their lead and then garbage time officially begun.

End of story.