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2012 Presidential Election: Romney vs. Obama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. justtxyank

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    So weird. Healthcare reform being rolled back was the only thing I potentially liked about Romney.
     
  2. QdoubleA

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  3. justtxyank

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    Not sure what the purpose of this post was? If you are trying to gloat that Obama won you should know that I predicted his victory consistently on this board and I did not vote for Mitt Romney.
     
  4. rocketsjudoka

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    That was going to be the most interesting thing about a Romney presidency. He had pledged to repeal Obamacare but had also pledged to retain almost all of the most popular provisions. The problem with that is that it doesn't work unless the most unpopular provision, mandate, is kept. How he was going to work that out would've been quite a juggling act.
     
  5. justtxyank

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    I don't think that he was being honest in how he'd handle it.

    I don't really want a full repeal of Obamacare.

    Just changes. It infuriates me that the Republicans are too scared of their mid term re-election to actually work with Obama.

    Community rating, caps on deductibles, FSA limits, SBS notices, lack of tax reform, etc. There are just too many issues with Obamacare that could be resolved in a bipartisan way. It drives me nuts that they will go untackled.
     
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  6. rocketsjudoka

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    That is pretty much exactly what the article I posted in the "Romney: White Vote" thread says.
     
  7. Dubious

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    There would have been nothing interesting about a Romney administration. Just dorky uncomfortable posturing trying to justify his conflicting positions.
     
  8. Deckard

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    The Voting Rights Act of 1964, which Republican Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen helped LBJ to get passed. You know, back when they did bipartisan stuff. The Democratic Party knew it would lead to them losing the South, and it did.


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  9. A_3PO

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    That promise was just one of the several pretzels Romney tied himself into without saying how he would untie himself. Whatever he thought would further the cause of getting elected, he said it. The guy was the most unprincipled candidate in my voting lifetime. Unlike 2008 when I felt sick to my stomach for McCain after he lost, I feel zero sympathy for Mitt at all.
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    Don't get me a wrong I don't think Romney would've been able to actually repeal Obamacare and replace it with something that kept the popular portions without the unpopular ones. I think he would've taken enough heat from the House Republicans to try to repeal Obamacare and enough heat from everyone else to keep parts of it. I doubt he would've succeeded it just would've been interesting seeing him trying to deal with that.
     
  11. mtbrays

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    I cannot wait for Robert Caro's next LBJ book. I know that's like saying "I can't wait for a flying car," as there's no sense in predicting its release schedule, but the story of the Voting Rights Act, and Johnson's victory over Goldwater, should be incredible.
     
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  12. QdoubleA

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    You don't like healthcare reform (health care reform is good and needed) therefore Obama dance gif. Don't be so emotional.
     
  13. justtxyank

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    Health care reform is needed and a lot of Obamacare is good. Unfortunately a lot of it isn't.
     
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    Agree X 100
     
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    Obamacare is not even what Obama wanted... so I don't think you are saying anything controversial.
     
  16. jocar

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    Beware! The white establishment is now the minority. It's not a "traditional" America anymore.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/NZZt3jPDvNQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
    I thought this was a proud nation of immigrants. Didn't realize the color of the immigrants mattered so much.
     
  17. rocketsjudoka

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    WOW.. Let's not even disguise the racism..
     
  18. DonnyMost

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    edit: derp. wrong thread.
     
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    O'Reilly was very entertaining. Hannity up next with Ann Coulter. The despair should be delicious.
     
  20. jocar

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    Why start now?
    http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1147
    *"We'd save lives because Mexican wetbacks, whatever you want to call them, the coyotes--they're not going to do what they're doing now, all right, so people aren't going to die in the desert."

    *During an interview for Stuff magazine (11/02), O'Reilly opined that "the most unattractive women in the world are probably in the Muslim countries." O'Reilly later insisted (New York Daily News, 10/10/02), "There was no malice intended. It was just in jest."

    * During a segment (2/9/00) about black athletes suing over the minimum academic standards for college admission, O'Reilly commented: "Look, you know as well as I do most of these kids come out and they can't speak English."

    * Criticizing Democratic politicians who met with Rev. Al Sharpton, which O'Reilly compared to meeting with white supremacist David Duke: "Why would it be different? Both use race to promote themselves." (3/16/00) O'Reilly also equated the Black Panthers with Duke (1/11/99): "You were promoting your people, black people, and he's promoting white people. So what's the difference?"

    * "We have black leaders in this country who blame everything on whitey, everything's the system's fault, and that gives a built-in excuse to fail and act irresponsible. 'Oh, I can't get a job. Whitey won't let me,' or 'I can't get educated. The teachers are bad, so I'm going to go out and get high and sell drugs. That's the only way we can make money here.' You know what I mean? And it's a vicious cycle" (6/8/99).

    * "Will African-Americans break away from the pack thinking and reject immorality--because that's the reason the family's breaking apart--alcohol, drugs, infidelity. You have to reject that, and it doesn't seem--and I'm broadly speaking here, but a lot of African-Americans won't reject it" (2/25/99).

    * "I've been to Africa three times. All right? You can't bring Western reasoning into the culture. The same way you can't bring it into fundamental Islam" (5/6/02).


    Here is a great response from a girl to FOX and Oreilly on christwire

    http://christwire.org/2012/11/bill-oreilly-the-white-establishment-is-now-the-minority/
     

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