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2012 Presidential Election: Romney vs. Obama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. kpsta

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    Haha! I love it. You've probably heard this by now, but this sentiment is precisely why your party lost. By all means, keep jumping up and down and whining "**** bipartisanship!" like that worthless bag of excrement, Mitch McConnell. The sooner Republicans abandon that petulant attitude, the sooner the rest of America will let them come back to participate in politics at the national level.
     
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  2. Roxnostalgia

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    I know it's the D&D. I post occasionally here but usually just about stuff that either side does that makes me mad.

    So here's my political contribution: deep breath...I voted for Mr. Romney. It was a choice of economics which I will admit is not a strong suit of mine. That said, how invigorating to see the people galvanized to support the president in his second term. I know I will do my best. As my posts on this forum indicate I'm sick of pointing fingers at the craziest of the crazy on each side and saying "see?" All repubs/dems are nuts! I don't/ can't believe that.

    I don't see myself as a republican. I'm an American. When I see America energized, hungry;especially in tough times ill take it.

    So, President Obama you have my support. Keep us excited in tough times. Keep being a family man. Not just your biological family. I'm excited. And the dude I voted for lost...convincingly. So I'll end with a cliché: I love this country.
     
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  3. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    So in this election the Republicans saved control of the House, but the democrats kept control of the Senate, the White House, and D&D. Good outcome if you ask me...
     
  4. Zboy

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    BTW, both my wife and I are involved with high tech R&D and this is one of the reasons we are glad Obama won.

    Talking to other scientists that we know, they feel the same.
     
  5. gifford1967

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    I know this is probably wishful thinking, but I wonder if this election will finally make the some of the bassos, jopats, and thumbs out there begin to question their sources of information. Obviously, inside their bubble they were told repeatedly that Obama didn't have a chance, that it wasn't going to be close, that the polls were "skewed" and experts like Nate Silver were dishonest hacks. It's rare that you have such a concrete event, like an election, to demonstrate who's a hack and who isn't. Will this cause some conservatives to begin to question their thought leaders' positions on other issues, like economic policy, global warming, healthcare policy, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, etc. Maybe Paul Krugman knows what he's talking about, maybe the vast majority of climate scientists are on the right track about the causes and consequences of global warming, maybe privatizing Social Security and reversing Obamacare would be bad, bad ideas.

    I can only hope.
     
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  6. Baqui99

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    I personally liked Dick Morris' electoral map from two days ago:

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    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...-going-to-win-with-325-electoral-votes-video/
     
  7. rimrocker

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    The Romney camp was frank about what they needed: Win 61% of white voters who had to make up 72% of the electorate. That Eisenhower was the last President who won with those demographics didn’t seem to faze them. Whites did indeed make up 72% of the electorate, but Romney only got 59%.

    When in the Nixon Whitehouse, Pat Buchanan wrote a famous memo that influences Republican strategy today. Looking over the nation after the 1960’s and in particular after Brown v. Board of Education and the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Buchanan listed a long series of tactics to divide America, including the emphasis on abortion to split Catholics and social liberals, tax policy to draw in the working class, and racial appeals to divide the country regionally.

    “Bumper stickers calling for black Presidential and especially Vice-Presidential candidates should be spread out in the ghettoes of the country. We should do what is within our power to have a black nominated for Number Two, at least at the Democratic National Convention,” wrote Buchanan to President Nixon. If Republicans were able to do these things and more, it would “cut the Democratic Party and country in half; my view is that we would have far the larger half.”

    The strategy was mostly a successful one. Until this year. This year, a minority of whites with huge majorities of African-Americans, Latinos, and Asians created a winning coalition that was able to stand up without the extra help of an immediate financial meltdown and the real-time disgust with the previous president. Demographic trends over the next 4-8-12 years should finish putting the nails in the coffin that now houses the Republican’s Southern Strategy and further diminish their "half."

    I’m thinking this is a watershed presidential election, much like 1912 when the urban vote and the rural vote were roughly equal for the first time. An African-American President has been reelected by a multi-racial coalition that will only get stronger in the foreseeable future. The great mystery going forward is how (or even if) the Republican Party will change to appeal to more non-white voters.

    If a transformation does come to the party, it will be because at some level the rank and file understand and accept the shifts going on in this country, but I don’t see Republicans changing on a dime because the strategy outlined by Buchanan in 1971 has become the party, become Conservatism.
     
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  8. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Props to you -- that's a tough attitude to achieve the day after an election.

    I heart the bolded part especially.
     
  9. kpsta

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    Please don't be a stranger in D&D. We need more like you.
     
  11. Major

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    Agreed - this place is better when people are actual rational and willing to discuss issues instead of posting drivel.
     
  12. mleahy999

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    This is one of the reasons it would always irk me when he tried to bring his record in Massachusetts during the debate.

    Most of us here in Massachusetts do not think very highly of him.

    He lost Massachusetts. His hometown. Strike 1.

    He lost Michigan. His other hometown. Strike 2.

    He lost Wisconsin. Paul Ryan's hometown. Strike 3.
     
  14. Nook

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    Nope... they will just nominate Marco Rubio as their candidate and assume they will carry the Hispanic vote.
     
  15. Rashmon

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    Got this email last night at 10:38 pm

    Rashmon (I changed the name)--

    I'm about to go speak to the crowd here in Chicago, but I wanted to thank you first.

    I want you to know that this wasn't fate, and it wasn't an accident. You made this happen.

    You organized yourselves block by block. You took ownership of this campaign five and ten dollars at a time. And when it wasn't easy, you pressed forward.

    I will spend the rest of my presidency honoring your support, and doing what I can to finish what we started.

    But I want you to take real pride, as I do, in how we got the chance in the first place.

    Today is the clearest proof yet that, against the odds, ordinary Americans can overcome powerful interests.

    There's a lot more work to do.

    But for right now: Thank you.

    Barack
     
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    Got this one today:


     
  18. Raven

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    I'm am giddy that Romney lost, but the GOP still has enough power to block progress. What the election means more than anything is that health care reform won't be rolled back.

    I like how that sounded so much that I'm going to repeat it.

    Healthcare reform won't be rolled back.

    OK, one more time.

    Healthcare reform won't be rolled back.

    Isn't it awesome to read those words!

    :grin:
     
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  19. mleahy999

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    I voted for Mitt for governor and thought he did a good job. He was a very practical guy eliminating some hack jobs and kick started healthcare reform. I liked governor Romney much more than presidential candidate Romney. He had to take some far right positions to get the nomination and came off as a different person. I think if he could've ran as a moderate and made it through the primaries, he would've had a great shot at winning the election.
     
  20. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Yeah, and if I was a unicorn that shat quarters, I'd have a lot of quarters and a horn in my head, but that will never happen. Just like a moderate will never make it through the Republican primaries.
     

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