That still doesn't answer my question. If someone believes the opposite or re-arranges this ranking. Why are they instantly labeled Lin only Fans?
Vague statements like "the majority of people..." have no real meaning. I'll believe that those whom have followed the Rockets for the last 5 years and are following the Raptors are more than entitled to believe that. I'll also believe that those whom have followed Lin since High School or College or Linsanity are more than entitled to believe that as well.
Kyle Lowry : 9775 Minutes played, Started 142 games, Played in a total of 362 games. Goran Dragic : 5290 Minutes played, Started 40 games, Played in a total of 275 games. Jeremy Lin: 1338 Minutes Played, Started 28 games, Played in a total of 67 games of which almost 40 were only garbage minutes as a 3rd/4th stringer. so regardless ~ the best way to look at this is - Minutes played and Games Started. Why is it such a mission to compare Lowry and Lin as they are now. * Both extremist sides need to go kick rocks. * Although I think Lin has the rare clutch gene, and a6th gear in the 4th Q to take over games and win-out no matter what. As long as he feels he has the support of his team and the freedom to play ball. If you want to do a comparison - at least try to do some loose comparison - With High School. With College. 1st year 2nd year 3rd year Comparisons.
I don't really get the comparisons to Dragic, Lowry. I agree with the poster who said in earlier in the thread that these comparisons are ultimately meaningless because there just isn't enough data to make a fair evaluation and it's going to come down largely to personal bias. Perhaps at the end of the seasion, or maybe even halfway through we can make a better assessment of Lin's contribution to the Rockets. However, I think to expect anything close to Linsanity numbers is not really a reasonable proposition because he has a very different role on this rockets team. In NY Lin as leading the offence on the majority of the posessions, also, during his streak he was the go to guy in the 4th, the one expected to make the hero play. That's no longer the case. While I think it's great for Lin that Harden has taken a lot of the pressure off of him it also comes with the caveat that Lin's stats aren't going to be as good as compared to if he was considered the leader/number one option on the team. We can already see that a lot of possessions Lin just brings the ball up, hands to to Harden to initiate/ISO and then goes to the corner. From the rocket's perspective it doesn't really matter. As long as they find a winning formula, though I do think that Harden ISOs aren't going to be the way to go as teams focus their defence on him, but the team will figure that out as they go along. Lin's shooting isn't really where it was last season, and I put this down to him still not being up to game fitness and getting back from his injury. I think we can safely assume his production will be in the 18/8 area once he's back to his game. For it to be any higher than that he will need to have a more prominent role as leading the offence. The good thing is that Lin is not a selfish stat w****. He will do whatever benefits the team and if that means Harden ISOing then so be it. And to me that is one of his greatest assets as a player. The thing that disapoints me the most is when posters look at things in isolation or out of context or when they display blatant hypocrisy. The Lillard comparisons are a good example. 3 starts is not a small sample size but 25+ is. Shooting poorly in 3/4 games and shooting worse than Lin this season yet 'a better prospect.'
Lin is scrutinized the most because some feel he has to make up for losing both Lowry and Dragic. People were shocked when we let both go. So a void was created that Lin must fill. And to appease those people he must perform on a very high level every night.
What kills me are the obsequious posts (I can almost hear the Hoosiers/Rudy music) about overcoming the doubters. Jeremy played great last year. I don't care what happened in high school or college. This has no relevance to my Rockets. You know that Lin isn't even the first undrated player to get cut by GS and thrive with the Knicks? But John Starks never had an army of groupies ready to lambast anyone who didn't pray to him. For a fan base that loves to point out how humble and unselfish Mr. Lin is, we have seen a crazy amount of blindly fanboy posts. Do you people actually believe that Lin is unique in that he had to fight hard to land where he has? It's a great story. I love seeing underdogs succeed. But to read this board lately you would think that Ben Wallace had millions of dollars fall in his lap. Oh, but he's black. I hope Jeremy continues to play at a high level. He can still improve.
if u have a problem with a "crazy fanboy" then why not confront that person individually? why come here and b**** about it?
Well, rook let me spell it out for you. This board is the medium upon which the Lin worship is being presnted. And while my future plans include being an Internet tough guy, I'm not ready to go pro yet.
Let's take a step back here. Where am I whining? I like Lin, said as much. And your sarcasm meter needs fixin'
lol my sarcasm meter is fust fine. u know they say, "sarcasm is the lowest form of wit". but then again your crap doesn't even measure u... "What kills me are the obsequious posts (I can almost hear the Hoosiers/Rudy music) about overcoming the doubters. Jeremy played great last year." "Do you people actually believe that Lin is unique in that he had to fight hard to land where he has? It's a great story"
How about you point out some examples of the "crazy amount of blindly fanboy posts"? I see way more examples of posters bashing Lin for no reason (ex: post about Harden's defense turns into attack against Lin, post about Lin's play turns into Lowry/Dragic better than Lin thread, game thread turns into OMG LIN'S TURNOVERS despite every other starter having a higher turnover rate...). BTW, it's not like John Starks is some under-appreciated player only a few hipsters know about. He's kind of a cult hero for Knicks fans, and Lin drew a lot of comparisons with him last season.
True, but he definitely should have been a late or early second round pick based on high school and college. People seem to act like he suddenly learned how to play basketball overnight and then came Linsanity. The guy wasn't a scrub in high school and college. He was actually quite good. Lin will ever be a superstar, but I think he can be a 17, 9, 2 player, and if that's the case, 8 mil a year is a bargain. Lowry and Dragic are the better players as right now, but the drop off isn't that much. The people that are freaking out about Lin "replacing" Lowry, seem to forget when CF saw Lowry as a top 5 PG last season before he got sick, he was averaging about 16, 7, 2...which is something Lin can realistically put up this year...at 24 years old and first full year as a starter.
Lowry's and Dragic's game are the same way. But anytime you can go off in the 4th quarter, I would say your game has "swag".
This whole Lowry/Dragic/Lin comparison was started by LOF(LowryOnlyFan) and DOF. If they like Lowry/Dragic so much, do as Lin fan does, following them to their new teams.
