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Texans cut Holliday Sign Ruud and Cody White

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by htownrox1, Oct 10, 2012.

  1. JunkyardDwg

    JunkyardDwg Member

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    When a couple of former return men leave and become productive, while your own team is still struggling on kickoffs and punts, then surely you have to start thinking maybe its the coaching, right?
     
  2. conquistador#11

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    i'm happy for the little guy.
     
  3. vator

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    me too, but something has to change with our special teams...this is inexcusable at this point for a professional football team to be this pathetic
     
  4. Ashes

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    Most definitely.
     
  5. Nimo

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    keyshawn Martin was bad today. He did pretty good.
     
  6. Nimo

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    oops. Meant Martin was NOT bad today.
     
  7. Buck Turgidson

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    You can't coach Trindon or Jacoby to have hands.
     
  8. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    This has a lot more to do with the special teams than a few drops.
     
  9. sammy

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    My worst nightmare is that Marciano will cost us a playoff game. Just like Jacoby did last season.
     
  10. Genesis

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    I certainly hope not. But man, our special teams is just horrible.
     
  11. DieHard Rocket

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    At this point you've almost got to consider a ST coaching change. I know Marciano is beloved as an original Texan, but it's getting ridiculous.

    When you're scared to kick a relatively routine FG on 4th down for fear that (a) they will block it or (b) that they will run the kickoff back then it's time to reevaluate some things.
     
  12. ipaman

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    by who???

    he's not beloved in my house that's for damn sure.
     
  13. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    What sucks is winning teams rarely make coaching changes. Kubiak is attached to everyone. He's not going anywhere unless we lose games or something catastrophic happens on ST in the playoffs.
     
  14. SwoLy-D

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    :grin: That's what SHE sa--ummm, :( no, she didn't... errrr... what-who?
     
  15. RunninRaven

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    I think you are oversimplifying that decision. The decision had as much to do with our defense as it did our special teams. Kubiak had faith that our defense could hold, so it made more sense to try to get that 5 yards so we could go ahead and run the clock out right then and there rather than get an extra 3 points that ultimately didn't really change things that much. Now the play selection and Schaub's decision to throw a bomb on that play is something else entirely.
     
  16. DonkeyMagic

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    trindon was due for return with enough time. Texans just got sick of waiting and dealing with his mistake while taking up a roster spot
     
  17. Ziggy

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    Yeah, the problem isn't the decision to let him go, it's special teams as a whole. Forsett, Martin, Manning, we have multi-purpose players that can handle the job.
     
  18. rezdawg

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    Coaching is the issue here...needs to be fixed asap. It wont happen during the season, but we need a new coach next year to replace Marciano.
     
  19. Hey Now!

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    I assume you mean Jacoby and now Trindon?

    Jacoby was a better punt returner here than he has been in Baltimore. His tenure in Houston ended horribly, and he's been painted with that brush ever since - but he was a borderline dangerous PR while here. Holiday has a big return and good for him - he's otherwise been pretty terrible in Denver. Look, we all saw him run circles around teams in the preseason. Those big plays were absent for seven straight weeks, though, as we watched him bumble and stumble and make terrible decisions. I think Kubiak's "you better be special or else" mandate - while dead on - probably put a lot of pressure on him and he seemed to shrink from it.

    STs are concerning - but fans do this way too much: they overreact to anomalies that don't really prove the point they're trying to make.
     
  20. vinsensual

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    Marciano should definitely be out the door. But it would have been a mistake to keep Trindon here either way. The dude had no hands and I'll take bad field position over even a 5% chance of a muffed punt any day.
     

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