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Lin's scrutiny

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kaitanuva, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. AVP

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    The Cavs fans LOVE Lebron before he left them. Miami is utterly head-over-heels in love with James since he joined. He's only hated by those who's not a fan of the team he plays for. Lin has zero love among ROCKET fans; in fact he probably has more fans anywhere else EXCEPT Houston.

    Yes, I am saying that even after Lin helped Rockets win a championship, the fans here will never love him like the NY fan did. Not saying there's no love at all, but no "real Rocket fans" has convinced me even a little bit that would be the case.

    I do think that's a good thing for Lin though - more hate from his own team's fans will just drive him that much harder. Maybe you guys should bring a "I Miss Gogi" poster to home games.
     
  2. ERC

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    I don't think it's anything personal against Lin. I mean, the Rockets did lose two very good PGs in Lowery & Dragic (esp. the latter with his break-out season). They were replaced by Lin, someone with what's essentially a max contract on a very short resume. Add in all the media hype, it's hard not to take a "let's wait and see" approach.

    I do think once Lin establishes himself as a legit player/PG and worthy of his $25M contract, the local fans will shower him with love too. Of course, it can be argued that no one will love him more than the NY fans did. I mean, the Knicks were 8-15 with 6 consecutive loss before Lin burst onto the scene. That's a once-in-a-lifetime scenario not likely to be duplicated by anyone anywhere anytime soon.
     
  3. Knickskiller

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    Omg are we devoling regressing again . Please! Chill out guys . No internternational incidents again .
    Let these players play . They speak through their basketball.

    Its working so far.

    Stay positive stay beautiful!
     
  4. Code Red

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    Obviously Lin hasn't proven enough I agree with you there, but you have to realize that the contract isn't just about Lin playing basketball, but it's also the hype that he brings because of what he did last season. Rockets wants to get noticed by the media, so signing Lin was pretty obvious. Also Lin is a solid young player.
     
  5. AVP

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    Yeah, anywhere but Houston it seemed. We will see tonight.

    And those who are on Cluthfans are die hard basketfall fans in a football city. If THESE fans can't show any love for Lin I don't know why would anyone else?

    I'm not a huge fan of linsanity but I would expect someone here to feel a little excited about getting a young player with so much upside. Not really sensing that at all. Even in this tread I see "old timers" who want to justify why they have no love for Lin.
     
  6. Code Red

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    AVP you need to read what I stated. You first talked about the love comparing Yao and Lin and now you're comparing the love LeBron got in Cleveland with Lin. Once again, that's a very ignorant thing to say. Lin in my opinion gets enough love already for what he has done.

    You can't compare a #1 draft picks who has proven to be consistent night in and night out to Lin. Yao was a star and LeBron is obviously a star. Until Lin has proven himself to be at a very high level it's ignorant for a lot of people to think of him so highly.
     
  7. slickster

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    You can't have rational discussions with the haters. By definition they are bitter haters and can't be reasoned with.

    There will always be a low self-esteem contingent who are outraged by any inkling of success.

    I wouldn't be surprised if there were maybe 10-12 people on the internet who have maybe 100 accounts and spam and troll every basketball and houston related forum with troll posts about Lin.

    Psychologically speaking, they want to bring everyone down to their miserable level; they won't succeed but they want to sh-- on the parade, so to speak, to whatever degree they can get away with it.
     
  8. slickster

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    Hah! Thanks! Had no idea what that was about!
     
  9. cbk41

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    You have a very deluded definition of the word "love", and absolutely ridiculous expectations of others to share your same passion for an individual. I can guarantee you that city of Houston really likes having Lin here, and so does 95% of ClutchFans. I'm sorry that Hakeem is the standard for "loving" an athlete in this city and I'm also sorry that it's difficult for you to separate any part of your fandom from reality.
     
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    Two sides of the same coin, my dear. You can reason with any kind extremist. Both sides fighting a war believe they are correct and are even willing to throw their lives/dignity for their cause. But those on the outside and not affiliated just see chaos, destruction, and a general lack of respect.
     
  11. il italiano

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    HAHA if any player brought Houston a championship then that said player would be adored and maybe even idolized. And the reason why rockets fans arent quick to jump on the jeremy lin fan bus is because of his hype. The so called "LOFs" hyped him up so much that it had done more harm for lin than good. I will support him if he plays well (which he has so far), as i would do ANY player. But im not gonna support him just because he lite the world on fire in New York for 20 games or so.
     
  12. il italiano

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    excellent point! You have got to do something (like Hakeem did) to get that type of "love" from fans. There are many examples of this. When the Texans drafted JJ Watt, there were many people who absolutely hated the pick. Now go ask them their feelings on Watt. Same thing happened w/ Yao
     
  13. King Boo

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    False equivalency.

    One side: Positive. Excited about their favorite player.

    Other side: Negative. Hate on said player for no reason.

    When you get as big as Lin did last season, you're going to attract a lot of trolls that just want to root against him. Don't argue that fans supporting their favorite team or even their favorite player are on the same level though.

    The trolls aren't going to go away even if Lin plays well, like he's been doing. One of the positives of creating an account here is that you can at least put some of the worst ones on ignore.
     
  14. AVP

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    Well now it kind of does make sense. To be loved by real Rocket fans is be another Olajuwon. I guess that will never happen to Lin so yeah, my theory is correct then. I think I'm done with this whole issue.

    Again I'm not a Lin fan - I wasn't impressed by Linsanity. I'm only commenting because I find the level of hate interesting; I've never seen a local fanbase so distant from a young prospect this badly.. it's not like there's two groups of local fans arguing with each other as it should, but it's all about "real fans" hating on their own team players and outsiders who come to his defense.
     
  15. AdrenaLINe

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    Your right... but we are not the ones baiting..


    like I said... I would rather there be a dedicated Lin thread...

    because the guys that are worse than the LOFs and the LOF haters...

    are the ones who click on a Lin thread to biatch about a Lin thread...and its posters
     
  16. AdrenaLINe

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    when you have had two NBA teams moved on you...(even 1)

    one where you had to endure 5 years of Lottery based play... and then get it moved on you when things started to get better...

    get back to me on team loyalty...
     
  17. AdrenaLINe

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    ^ we have to deal with this every few post... everyone except established Rox fans it seems

    knows.....

    that two PGs who had break-out years, were dumped so you could get Howard(well one was dumped because you had the other)

    you were not even talking with Lin the first day of Free Agency...
     
  18. AdrenaLINe

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    show us examples of the hype....
     
  19. AdrenaLINe

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    show us examples of the hype....

    from LOFs on this site
     
  20. King Boo

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    It's wasn't a choice between Lowry/Dragic and Lin. It was more a choice between Lin and say, Ramon Sessions.

    After the Rockets couldn't work it out with Lowry and Dragic, what other point guard was on the market? Rockets were incredibly lucky to land Lin, especially when no one expected the Knicks to not match and the best PG left on the market would've been Sessions (who's now on the Bobcats :eek:).
     

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