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East Coast Braces for "Frankenstorm"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by countingcrow, Oct 26, 2012.

  1. ItsMyFault

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    There's still humidity. Without A/C, it's unbearable to stay in the house even at night.

    I know one thing, I'd rather take cold temperatures and wear a hoodie/blankets than deal with humidity in a house without electricity.

    We were fortunate during Ike to only have our power go out for 6 hours, but the area around us didn't have power for days and even a week or TWO for some people.
     
  2. dharocks

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    I'm not sure you really thought that out. An excerpt from a facebook status of a friend of mine who's working as part of a relief effort in nyc, and who previously volunteered in MS for Katrina relief:

     
  3. Duncan McDonuts

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    Why, thank you. If the rest of the world relied on emotion instead of evidence or logic, we'd all be savages. It's thanks to people like me and dmc89 that civilizations can advance.

    Tragic story for the mother, but I'm sure she's not the brightest crayon in the crayon box if she's driving with her toddlers during a hurricane.
     
  4. Zboy

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    She was forced to leave her house once the water level rose to the attic.

    One can ask why she hadn't evacuated long before the storm hit the shore. You can argue whether she is bright or not for not doing so earlier...

    ....however, that does not excuse the guy for not helping out a woman and her two toddlers in dire situation. He was faced with two choices: Help them, or let them die out there. He chose the later.

    As for logic, If the firemen were logical, they would never enter a burning building.
     
  5. ItsMyFault

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    For the elderly, that applies. I've been without electricity before in the severe cold. It's not great, but I'm a cold climate person. I can take cold MUCH MUCH easier than I can with heat and humidity. I can't sit still or sleep in humidity.
     
  6. Duncan McDonuts

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    And he is not morally, ethically, nor legally obligated to help her. In a crisis situation, you cannot blame anybody when they are worried for their own safety. A lot of people adopt the "every man for himself" mentality, and it is completely justified.

    He didn't know they would get swept away by a huge surge of water and die out there. It's probably weighing on his conscience now and he feels terrible for it. But bottom line is that he was prepared for the hurricane, that mother was not.

    That's a bad analogy, too. Firemen volunteer to put themselves in harms way to help others. This man is a civilian.
     
  7. Zboy

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    I disagree. Legally no but morally and ethically yes.

    Also, if he didnt know that a wave would kill her or her toddlers, what was he afraid of then?! You first imply that he was in grave danger. But then discount the same danger for the lady and her toddlers when they were the ones outside. It doesnt make sense unless the lady and the toddlers were the danger.
     
  8. Duncan McDonuts

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    Everyone's moral and ethical code are different. You feel that he should help them. I do, too. If I were in his situation, I would be opening that door and bringing them in. However, he did not feel comfortable putting himself into a dangerous situation that the mother put her family in.

    He is not responsible for anybody but himself and his own.
     
  9. dmc89

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    There's conflicting reports about what happened. What was first reported and told to the police: mother knocked on the door asking the homeowner to come outside and help find her kids. They'd been swept from her arms wading from her car to his door. She didn't ask for refuge.

    -Staten Island was under mandatory evacuation with several warnings since the past 2 days.
    -There were downed power lines and trees, and the storm was raging outside.
    -Staten Island is predominately a white community, and people at local gas stations and restaurants had discussed the possibility of (black) looters.
    -Homeowner was wearing nothing but shorts, a robe, and sandals.

    I'd have given her shelter, and maybe even gone outside a short distance to spot any sign of the boys. I wouldn't have risked my life to search for them, and I don't expect the homeowner to have done so, if the story is as first reported.
     
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    I noticed (from the CNN video) there were many of those row houses next to each other. Why didn't she just go to the next house if that first guy wouldn't let her inside his place?
     
  11. Johndoe804

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    I think its ridiculous how the media has been calling this thing, "Superstorm Sandy." What the **** is that? Has anybody else noticed this and had the same thought?
     
  12. G Zus Kryst

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    grub n gear will warm u up but it b hard to get kool.........heat wil kill u faster an it harder to treet
     
  13. rocketsjudoka

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    Have you ever lived in a cold climate? I honestly don't think many of you understand what it is like to be without heat for an extended period of time.
     
  14. rocketsjudoka

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    Try spending the night outside in subfreezing temperatures and in 100 degree temperatures for a night and let me know how you feel. I have camped in both and the cold is deadlier. Not even subfreezing temperatures. Just try staying outside in temps under 40 degrees for a night and see how you feel.
     
  15. ItsMyFault

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    I'm living in a cold climate now. Chicago, IL. It doesn't get much colder than that in the winter other than Nothern states that have below zero temps. Trust me, I know what it's like. I'm a cold climate person. Currently over the last, 3 days, I haven't used any sort of heat except for a blanket and hoodie to keep myself warm and it's been mid 30s at night. (Electricity bill was high so I had to cutback) so I had I would say inside my place, it's usually around 55 degrees.

    I agree it can be deadlier, especially for the elderly. I'm just saying that for me, I'd rather take on the cold than humidity and warm weather without electricity. Neither is going to feel good after a while, but I deal better with the cold. With the heat and humidity, it would keep me up an entire night.
     
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  16. G Zus Kryst

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    o u mean u dont sleep ina tent outside?

    if dey go outside

    try stay on topic....we talkin bout peeples lites bein out....not campin ina tent......it can get 95 ina htown house EEAZY......
     
  17. G Zus Kryst

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    n e ways....just sayin its eazy to heat a house over freezin.....55 feels beter than 95....how many peeps dont got gas now?....pop tha stove on
     
  18. Ziggy

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    I'm tired of hearing "Super-storm Sandy" on TV. What's with the "super" part? It's annoying.
     
  19. Yonkers

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    No kidding. It was definitely an Ultra storm.
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Keep in mind that many of these people's homes got destroyed so they don't have dry blankets or clothing either. And in some cases, dry shoes.

    For those that just lost power, you can't stay wrapped up in blankets the whole time, and the other thing is that breathing cold air for extended periods is very hard on the body.

    Have you ever tried sitting outside in the cold for 7-8 hours breathing in ice cold air? Now try it for 24.
     

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