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2012 Presidential Election: Romney vs. Obama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. Northside Storm

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    Heavy weighted to the south.

    Romney wins the south +22
    Obama leads the west, midwest and east, +4, +4 and +6

    Obama is winning 2/3rds of the country
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    Really. People seem to have mass amnesia (I Obama had a good term for that) over who first instilled a health plan with an insurance mandate.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    There have been several posts proving that Republicans have obstructed when the administration moved to enact things they had at one time supported.

    You either didn't look at those, or you've chosen to ignore them. That doesn't make you correct.
     
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    Anyway at this point I think Romney has a 47% chance of winning the election but given where the numbers are and early voting happening already in battle ground states these are the three possibilities of the election in the electoral college that I see.

    1. Obama wins a narrow (1-20) Electoral College victory. Obama has many more ways of winning a close electoral college victory than Romney.
    2. Romney wins a narrow Electoral College victory. Leave aside the popular vote but the math just doesn't bode well for Romney sweeping several battleground states. The majority of the polls show Romney with a lead or within striking distance of Obama in many battled ground states but factoring in early voting and Obama likely has a firewall that while not impregnable has likely prevented a blowout win for Romney.
    3. Obama wins a larger Electoral College victory. Less likely than other two but very possible if the most optimistic polls break for Obama.

    The next possibility that while unlikely is well within the realm of possibility is a tie. If that happens there will also likely be several recounts, lawsuits and legal wrangling delaying final determination of a President until January. Looking up the official certification of electors is Jan. 7, 2013 but it is likely to be dragged out even further than that.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    Republicans proposed the idea of a deficit commission, Obama endorsed it, then Republicans decided they opposed it.

    Republicans proposed Pay as you Go rules. Obama endorsed the idea, and then Republicans opposed pay as you go rules.

    Republicans supported trying terrorism suspects in US courts. Once Obama implemented the policy Republicans objected to the policy.

    Republicans were in favor of a Cap and Trade policy, but once Obama was in favor of it, the Republicans were against it.

    Look at the majority of amendments in the health care bill. Most of them are Republican amendments. How many Republicans supported that bill? The answer is none.

    You were flat out wrong. Either you're man enough to admit it or you aren't. Either way none of the people pointing out that the Republicans have been obstructionist would look bad for that. It's your own rep you need to look after.
     
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    What is more convincing than anything else is the way that Barack Obama is acting right now. He is behaving like a loser. If he really believed he was going to win, he would not be acting like such a punk.

    Mitt Romney on the other hand is behaving like he is already President.

    No one should be surprised to see this foreshadowing become reality within the next 10 days.
     
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    What? Obama is acting like a punk? I'm not sure where this is coming from. If by Romney acting like he's already president you mean Romney's going back on everything he campaigned on during the primaries then maybe it would make sense.
     
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    Regarding the ACA, he held a 7 hour long, televised summit to talk about ways to get Republicans to support the legislation. Quite literally the ONLY suggestion put out by Republicans during that summit was "clean sheet of paper," this after over a year of ongoing negotiations.

    This was repeated on nearly every issue, the Republicans opposing absolutely everything Obama proposed, even when they were Republican proposals as recently as 10 years before.

    In other words, you are delusional if you actually think that it was Obama who refused to work with the other side.
     
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    link to video? TIA
     
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    It's called campaigning. Something Romney might want to think about trying to do. LOL!!!
     
  12. NMS is the Best

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    I am going to call the election right now - Obama will win. This is the best case scenario for Romney:

    http://www.270towin.com/2012_election_predictions.php?mapid=VnJ

    Mind you, I am only giving Obama all the states where he has an RCP average of +2.0 or better and everything else to Romney. Obama still wins 277 to 261. Barring some really unexpected event, Obama will win a 2nd term...
     
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    Slam dunk response.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Romney up 1 in the PPP daily track, 49-48. Romney up 16(!) with independents. Sample is D+3. Obama approval 44-52.</p>&mdash; NumbersMuncher (@NumbersMuncher) <a href="https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/262399311025954816" data-datetime="2012-10-28T03:44:05+00:00">October 28, 2012</a></blockquote>
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  15. bigtexxx

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    One of my favorite Ben Franklin quotes: ""When people find out they can vote themselves money, the Republic will have ended."

    gimme dat cell phone Barack!!
     
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    bigot, you know that program was started under bush right?
     
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    blame Bush!

    it's been 4 years brah. Time for new excuses from Oblamer
     
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    Yes, it seems that we have been going downhill ever since the rich started voting themselves money in the 1980s.
     
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