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[Cops] Written Traffic Warnings

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Sajan, Oct 24, 2012.

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  1. Space Ghost

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    Writing warning tickets is generally for proof the cop is actually doing his job.
     
  2. Johndoe804

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    So, in other words, we're prosecuting pre-crime. I have the potential to attack my coworker sitting 5 feet away from me. Does that mean we should make it illegal for us to be this close? The answer is no. If I text and drive and end up hurting somebody, I should be punished, and the judge and jury should take my negligence into account in making that decision.

    You might be more apt to see things my way if you weren't a cop. If you were actually subject to the ridiculous laws the rest of us are subject to, you may be less apt to be the spokesperson who tries to justify it.
     
  3. Space Ghost

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    Its not a crime to be in an accident. And to clarify, breaking laws on the roadway generally speaking doesn't make you a 'criminal'.

    We have road laws because we have ignorant people who have trouble making sound judgement. If anyone has to explain to you why you shouldn't drink and drive, text and drive or not to run stop signs, you really shouldn't be driving.
     
  4. DFWRocket

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    no, they're prosecuting CRIMES
    running a stop sign is against the law
    texting and driving is against the law in many places
    drinking and driving is against the law

    sitting 5 feet from someone is NOT against the law.

    Sorry, I'm not a cop and have never worked in any part of the legal field. I work in TV. Yes, I've rolled through stop signs & yes I've ran stoplights. My point is if I got caught I would take responsibility for MY actions - I wouldn't blame the cop or give the cop attitude because I did something wrong.
     
  5. MadMax

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    Driving on a publicly funded road is a privilege...not a right. You can drive, provided you're licensed by the State and you pass their tests demonstrating it's not unsafe for the rest of us in the world to have you driving. You can drive a certain automobile provided it passes inspection tests each year to make sure it isn't dangerous in and of itself.

    Whether we criminalize texting while driving, driving drunk or exceeding the speed limit, it's all geared around keeping others safe. But you don't have any inherent right to drive an automobile on roads that are funded by the public.
     
  6. SwoLy-D

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    Yes. :eek: Also, legally. It demonstrates you have no respect for laws.
     
  7. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Depends on one's morals. Obviously you have none with respect to breaking the 'stop sign' law. Regardless, everytime you run that stop sign, you are breaking the law.

    Why do you run them? Is it so hard to come to a full and complete stop for a few seconds? It is not that hard to obey that law.
     
  8. BigBird

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    it's not good for your car and gas mileage to stop. They really should be replaced with yield signs, and yield signs in general should be more common on our roads. They are quite common in Europe. Though I disagree with some I do obey traffic laws.
     
  9. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Too many people don't stop at stop signs as it is, I can only imagine the havoc if the vast majority were replaced with yield signs.

    What they are starting to do more of, is replace them with roundabouts which makes sense in many areas, especially subdivisions.
     
  10. SwoLy-D

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    suv??? :confused:
     
  11. BigBird

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    regardless of the car I drive It's not good for ANY car to stop like that. But yeah I drive a tahoe.
     
  12. SwoLy-D

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    Well, then, move to where there are less STOP SIGNS so your nice Tahoe doesn't fail from too much stopping... :p
     
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    I got a speeding ticket 3 months ago. I tried to pay online, but the ticket never showed up. So 3 days ago, went to the court. No record of it either. Most likely scenario, cop lost my ticket.

    But I did have a 20 minute conversation with him about random topics. Hopefully that is the main reason.

    Cops aren't unreasonable if you admit to your fault, which I did. I actually provided a reason why I sped.
     
  14. Sajan

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    This is why i don't FULLY stop..like i slow down to JUST BEFORE the full stop..so i am not starting from 0 mph.
     
  15. BigBird

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    where is the magical land without stop signs...? I want to go there.
     
  16. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    But, you are breaking the law.
     
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    Rolling a stop sign is still breaking the law.
     
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    I'd call the department that assigned the warning. I normally get warnings and no citations probably because I'm polite, but really it depends on the officer. I'm sure if I get pulled over more, I'll run into a by-the-book patrolman. I dated a DA a while back, and she always flashed her badge so she never got warnings even lol. Gotta love our imperfect legal system.

    No, that's not how it works. It's usually a strict liability offense in most jurisdictions, so there isn't any element in the statutes for you to raise a defense/explanation. If you do action A, regardless of the inconvenience, you are breaking the law. Don't like it, put people into office who change the law for you.
     

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