ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Hornets 10/24/2012 (PRESEASON)

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Preseason games do not count!

Calm down! Real show will start in one week

 

Someone already responded to 1.

Number 2 is nonsense nobody is calling him an all start & if they are they need to cut it. He is a good young player with considerable potential. The fact that you are making a observation based on 5 pre-season games makes you a hypocrite considering you are complaining about an actual 25 actual NBA sample size.
Number 3 is nonsense and has been denounced on other threads not even going to bother
number 4 is further nonsense. You can train just as hard in Asia as you can in the US. Players have lives to fans need to cut the mentality that player need to sit at home doing nothing but train. As long as he spent at least 5 hours a day working on his game I don't care if he traveled under water in a submarine.
Number 5 how are you stinking up the place if you are managing a top 3 offense in pre-season & rank 1 st in steal per game. Offensively he needs to get his scoring touch back but if he averages 2 pts 10 assits and the rockets win games who the **** would complain about that.
And talking about your thai girlfriend is embarrassing. Like people can't be racist just because you have asian friends.

 

The true is:

Lowry hates Houston, or he could stay playing there.

Clear like water.

Lowry and Goran can show now IF they are better than Lin.

Because last season they were together in the same team

and they dont went to playoffs...

And Lin basically is alone as PG (we dont know who will be the backup PG yet).

For now, we are winning more than last season...<== another true...

 

I couldn't have said better myself.

 

Response

Dude, you better eat your own words. I said Lin will not average 16 points per game this season -- that's all-star level. At the end of next season, you better eat your own **** boy. And I like Lin, but I am not a fan of Lin lovers who are expecting crazy stuff from him. You better eat your own ****. Let's just wait until the end of this season. Before then, I have nothing to say to you, got that dude?

 

From John Hollinger of ESPN InsiderHouston Rockets 2012-13 Forecast - "Lin will be the real deal... And despite scouts' misgivings about some of his weaknesses, Lin simply does too many high-value things (drawing fouls, assisting at the rim, steals and rebounds) to not be an effective player."

I know not all ESPN analysts have high credibility, but Hollinger is definitely reputable. I mean, if the analyst who developed PER thinks our starting PG is the real deal, perhaps we fans should have the same faith, if not more?

 

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Lin played a decent defense, but when you compare that to his shooting, his D was great because it's all relative. His D is not as bad as people think, but by no means is it "great". He tries to play pretty good positional D, I can see that, and he gets about 2 steals per game. I also think his passing is decent so far, but when he misses his shots, he gets very erratic. And he's hesitating a lot these days on when to shoot and when to pass. His standing there on far left or right is not going to make opposing players guard him when he cannot make anything.

 

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I agree that "hater" and "trolling" are most overused words, and in fact, people who say you are a "hater" and "trolling" are trolling themselves. Most Lin fans are reasonable, but some are already putting Lin on top 7 PGs list; that's what cracks me up. Come on people, Lin has to play one entire year before you start putting him on the damn top so and so list.

 

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I thought I was a Lin fan, but after Lin lovers started telling me that a true Lin fan must not criticize Lin on any aspect of his game, I found out that I really must not be a Lin fan. I still think I am a Lin fan, but definitely I am not a fan of Lin lovers in that I like to both applaud and criticize every player's game.

 

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I am the first one to say Lin deserves to be a starter and he earned this with his very very good play during 20 or so games, although he did suck on a few games during the Linsanity period. I don't think his spark is covered up etc.; I think he has to make adjustments to how opposing teams are treating him now and he has to improve his shooting, etc., which means I am almost convinced that his offensive numbers for Rockets this season will fall very short of what people thought he might be able to do. And I hate to say this, the only way his offensive number will go up is if he can make jump shots, because there is no way opposing teams are going to let him drive and get easy lay-ups anymore. I do think so far he passed decently and played a decent D.

 

The New Age v.s. The Old Age

equals to

LOF/LOH v.s. YOF/YOH

on clutchfans anyways...

 

Yeah go rockets! Enough of Lin. Talk about TJones and Livingston. Impressive game! Go Rockets.

 

I agree that we should be able to applaud and criticize every player's game. I'm a huge Lin fan myself and I think Lin's offensive game was horrible last night.

What I don't enjoy reading (and I'm not saying you wrote them...) are people who think Lin was too busy making money during his Asia tour and didn't train enough, that he doesn't deserve his $25M contract, that he's a scrub who should be cut, that he's gonna be a bust, or that he was signed merely for his marketing appeal. There are 82 games that matter and none has been played yet. Is it so hard to ask people to have some patience?

 

Livingston was a totally pleasant surprise (well, at least for a newbie like me who's never watched any of his games)! I feel kinda bad for Douglas, because I know he tries VERY hard, but Livingston definitely made a compelling argument for that backup PG spot (albeit with an extremely small sample size).

 

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Yeah, Livingstone has a real good eye for his teammates whereabouts and has a good court vision. Do you think he can bring up ball if he needs to?

 

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Lin deserves everything he got and his starting PG position with Rockets. No player in NBA gets to a certain position without lots of hard work and dedication.

 

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He probably had previous fixed obligations. But I will say this: If I were him, I would have cut the Asia Tour thing short, not because I don't like to make money, but because I would like to make more money by showing people I can rise to the challenge and meet it. If Lin plays well, he has the world at his feet. The toughest thing to do is to do well when people expect you to do well. Lin did well when no one expected him to do well; he's at a different situation now. That's another challenge because now he got the dough and a starting position in NBA -- that brings another type of pressure, and perhaps a greater one.

 

Royce White

Seems like Royce White is only effective when he's dribbling the ball and driving and passing. Guy also seems to have no jumper.

 

Livingston is a PG, even though he can play SG as well. So you better believe he can bring the ball up. :grin: