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Majority of Israelis Support Apartheid

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Oct 24, 2012.

  1. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    So essentially, they are going to take all the members of Hamas into their country and treat them as inferiors? Or do they think that conceding all of Palestine and Jerusalem is going to pass without waves of psycho attackers from all over the Middle East?

    Nice. And then when I say the Israeli leaders are screwing Israelis, I get treated as an anti-semite.
     
  2. dmc89

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    I'm not a Israel fan, but I don't think the Palestinians are free from blame either. This article is not about the Palestinians, however.

    I really want to see how the Pro-Isael posters justify discriminating against Israeli Arabs. Govt jobs, state treatment, not living in the same building, not going to the same schools, etc. SM jumped the gun by failing to see this was Israelis against Israelis.

    You keep hearing how things would be better if the Israelis weren't threatened with force... but this is a significant portion of the population discriminating against their fellow citizens.
     
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  3. Qball

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    I see...
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    The sad thing is that the level of dehumanization from both sides toward the other makes it harder to achieve peace.

    You have the Palestinians who have been oppressed, discriminated against, occupied, not allowed to prosper, and brutalized on one side.

    On the other there are the citizens of Israel who have been the victims of terror over and over, fought wars with their neighbors and have a legitimate need for security, and security measures.

    The elimination of the bad conditions from either side would be a huge step in both sides reaching peace. But that won't happen the more each side sees the other as monsters and less than human.
     
  5. AroundTheWorld

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    I agree.

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  6. Kwame

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    I posted this article in the other thread, but the funny thing is that Israel is already an apartheid regime. Archbishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa, who lived under apartheid, agrees. Zionism at its core is a racist movement and ideology.

    You fail.
     
  7. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    The Palestinians would be Israeli Arabs if Israel annexed the West Bank. I don't know if they would be making a distinction between those who are now Israeli Arabs and those who would become Israeli Arabs under the new borders, nor is that covered in the article.

    As for equating al Queda with the Palestinians, support for terrorist organizations is incredibly high in the Palestinian territories. I would say a majority of Palestinians are at least terrorist sympathizers. It is pretty much impossible to find an analogous nation state. The stated goal of Hamas (the group which controls the majority of the Palestinian legislative council) is the destruction of Israel. No nation would absorb a group of people the size of their own population which recently elected a group dedicated to their own destruction.
     
  8. Dairy Ashford

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    I think you mean something else, I'm not even sure South Africa could have been labeled that in the last couple of decades.
     
  9. mgraye2969

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    I lived in the country of Israel for 9 months. It is a tough place to be, because of people like the ones who publish this bull**** poll to make people biased on the issue.

    Most of the people on this thread are already biased against Israel. They are biased not just against the government, but the citizens, the jews. In this country, their are missiles sent in everyday. The children are preached to love the people that send these missiles in, but to also protect their country. What does the Gaza Strip preach? HATE

    It is hard to preach peace, when Hamas, a terrorist organization preaches hate.

    Maybe one day once this never-ending cycle of people who are preaching hate will change. But until that day why don't you people on ClutchFans.com learn something and stop blaming the Israelis and Jews for the problems here. Maybe if you did that, we could start are journey towards peace.

    Read other sides of the story than just the one you think is right. Have the will power to think for your damn self and stop hating people who have done more harm than good.

    Think about all the terrorist attacks that happen in Israel before they, closed Gaza and the West Bank. It is not easy to live in fear when doing things like riding the bus and walking to school........
     
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  10. AroundTheWorld

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    Bravo mgraye 2969. You are speaking the truth. These guys already hated Jews and Israel and are just looking for reasons to justify their hate.
     
  11. David Stern

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    Lol your one sided account is moving:rolleyes:
     
  12. David Stern

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    Man I gave you rep on this post by mistake:eek:
     
  13. mgraye2969

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    So is yours........

    Furthermore, why don't you watch that video a couple post up and get some understanding about what I am talking about.
     
  14. AroundTheWorld

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    Nope. Try again so we can see if your rep-giving ability is there.
     
  15. mgraye2969

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    Where are you getting your information from??
     
  16. Kwame

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_the_apartheid_analogy#Support_for_Israeli_apartheid_analogy

    Plus, I'd take Archbishop Desmond Tutu's word over your's any day. He lived through apartheid in South Africa. Zionists, just like supporters of the Apartheid regime in South Africa up until the end, denied that racism was a reality.

    Why don't you tell us what kind of missiles the Palestinians are supposedly firing into Israel "every day"? Where are you getting your information from?
     
  17. AroundTheWorld

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qassam_rocket
     
  18. Kwame

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    A rocket is not a missile. You should also tell us what kind of munitions Israel uses against Palestinians and how often they're used.
     
  19. arno_ed

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    Pot meet kettle.

    Imho both governments are doing bad things. It is a bad situation. But i would never blame, the people Who are forced to live in these circumstances. No matter the religion, or race.
     
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    So that makes it ok? :confused:
     

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