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Mario Williams may not play against Texans???

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Jet Blast, Oct 23, 2012.

  1. The Cat

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    If he was open significantly more than he was targeted, it's almost like Flacco doesn't trust him. I wonder why that might be??? :confused:
     
  2. Grape_Swisha281

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    hard to get the ball to said receiver when its being batted down at line or Flacco is being rushed.. and to say Flacco doesnt trust him is lolable, didnt J.J make a key reception a couple weeks ago?
     
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    Why are you ignoring the punt returns, which he didn't? :confused:
     
  4. Grape_Swisha281

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    do you forget the return yards and the average field position that the Ravens had? That would make him a bigger contributor stats wise
     
  5. Grape_Swisha281

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    In before Boldin and Smith dont return...
     
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    You know you suck when a thread about you turns into of all people a Jacoby Jones thread.
     
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  7. The Cat

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    The ball being batted down at the line or Flacco being rushed didn't stop him from throwing to Smith and Boldin. You listed their targets in this very thread. Apparently it only stopped him from targeting Jones. What a coincidence! :rolleyes:

    Also, a "key reception"? :confused: Are you kidding me? Playing receiver is a spot where good ones routinely have 100-catch season. For an individual player, there's dozens of key ones each and every year. Jacoby made one? Give him a cookie, I guess.

    Bottom line: the excuses are ridiculous. Jacoby Jones is in his sixth year in the NFL. In five of them, he's had 31 catches or fewer. This year, he's almost halfway through the year and has 13 catches for 202 yards and one touchdown. He is not a good receiver and is no better at it for Baltimore than he was for the Texans.
     
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    Mario Williams thread turns into Jacoby Jones thread. Hey, how are DeMeco and Eric Winston doing? :p
     
  9. Nimo

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    I kinda expected Mario to have a down year. I, however, expect him to have a monster 2nd year in Buffalo.
     
  10. The Cat

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    Because I was calling him out for this garbage line:

    That's the most ridiculous and short-sighted logic I've heard in a long time. I never denied that Jacoby is a solid returner. What I'm trying to do in this thread is debunk the garbage floating around that he's helping them as a receiver. One poster said Jacoby was a "huge addition... as a receiver." Now, this guy is indirectly complimenting Jacoby's receiving skills by making up this bizarre targets-to-receptions ratio.

    The excuses keep coming, even in year six, and I'm tired of them. He is what he is.
     
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    And . . . scene.
     
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    I never once said Jacoby was better than |Smith or Boldin, i said he made a bigger impact on that game than those 2 WRs. and yes a key reception were talking about a guy who was NEVER supposed to be a Wr1 or Wr2 he was at best a potential good slot guy. How many games has Andre or Calvin Johnson caught 100 yards this season, or even Larry Fitz..? He also saved the game against the cowgirls...
     
  13. The Cat

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    Never denied that he's a solid special-teams player. Just sick of the excuses constantly given to him for his poor performance as a receiver. To circle back to Mario, it's awfully reminiscent of the "but he's triple teamed every play!!!" logic that we heard for so long.
     
  14. v3.0

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    David Carr wants you to know he's doing fine thank you very much.
     
  15. Grape_Swisha281

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    hey if my boss says you got 2 little reports to finish today but tells my co worker you got 14 to do. I complete my 2 but my coworker only completes 4 of his.. who had the better day?
     
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    It's difficult to even be irritated at the derail, what more can be said about Mario at this point?

    Honestly dont care here....he isnt driven enough for us to worry about him in a game, and the D doesnt appear to miss him, so whatever...
     
  18. HR Dept

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    Lol... Just stop.
     
  19. The Cat

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    As a returner, he "saved the game". We knew he could return kicks. This is not earth-shattering news. However, returners have limited value because they are highly replaceable.

    To put it into perspective, Brandon Tate (a slot receiver) is a consistently-good return man for the Bengals. Much better numbers than Jacoby in that area. Tate has had several key returns, and if you evaluate based on total yards (including kickoffs), he has more than AJ Green. I sure as hell hope you wouldn't argue that Brandon Tate has a "bigger impact" than Green on a game.
     
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    For those of you who haven't watched Mario in a Bills game this year, he's shamelessly going through the motions. I saw him do that in occasional games in his time here, I saw that he didn't always play til the whistle on a lot of downs, but never saw him pop open a bottle of Dontcare like he has in NY.

    80% of downs, he stands up at the snap and plays pattycake with the RT until the whistle. Doesn't make an apparent effort to shed his blocker, doesn't make an apparent effort to locate the ball. Only occasionally tries to bullrush or beat his man outside. Is not double teamed very often. Chip blocks either, since he so rarely gets behind the tackle.

    Teams can run at him without fear. QBs don't fear him in the pocket because he doesn't disrupt it.

    People are focusing on his sacks, but if you watch, you'd realize the bigger issue is that he simply does not affect plays.

    11 starters on defense. Mario is #11 on the Bills in tackles (on pace for 36). Making matters worse, he switched sides, and he's being handled one-on-one against RTs, freeing up opponents' LT to cream Chris Kelsay (Mark Anderson before he was hurt). No double team means that they can employ an extra blocker on the LBs. Little surprise that the Bills are dead last in both Rushing YPG and YPC.

    And when you can trample the Bills on first and second down with your RBs, you don't find yourself in 3rd and long situations nearly as much. So "rush specialist" Mario becomes useless.

    Forgot to include:
    http://buffalonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20121022/SPORTS/121029736/1004
    Not quite a half-season in, and he's being called out by journeymen. Buffalo media has been all over him of late, and it's reflecting the fanbase feelings. This is a blue collar hockey town, so a soft heartless diva act isn't going over all that well.
     
    #60 emjohn, Oct 24, 2012
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