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Palestinians accuse Israel of annexing the West Bank

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Mathloom, Oct 18, 2012.

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  1. AroundTheWorld

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    Except that you have chosen them as your employer.

    Cool. I think we should help Israel be safer from its undemocratic and fanatical neighboring governments.

    Note that once again, Mathloon paints the democratic government as the aggressor and the "poor" Islamic dictatorial regime as the one that just wants to defend itself.
     
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    This thread is about Israel's illegal settlement activity in occupied territory. Not about how much ATW hates Mathloom and vice versa.

    If you really want to play that stupid game, I could just say that it is obvious the reason ATW hates Mathloom is because he is a Muslim and not part of the superior Aryan race.

    Do you somehow believe your ad hominem attacks carry any worth? All you are doing is displaying your idiocy for everyone on this board.
     
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    I wouldn't even object to your statement if it wasn't the pot telling the kettle it is black - times 100,000, in your case.
     
  5. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    1) So what if I have chosen them as my employer? How does that correspond to what you said? The money I get paid is from my country's resources. The work I do is completely isolated from everything you're talking about. I do a service and I receive a fee.

    Are Bill Gates and Steve Jobs responsible for the actions of the US government based on them taking government money? This is a silly argument and you know it very well.

    As I said, I do not have any responsibility for the policies of the UAE government. You conveniently erased it from the parts you quoted, so I will repeat that you are simply trying to play on what I can/can't say. Let that be clear for all. As you have in the past, you will want to respond to this by saying "it's so convenient that you can't talk about this". Let me proactively respond to this by saying, you know full well that I cannot respond to it.

    It is continued disgusting behavior on your part to have the audacity to state you support civil liberties and oppose the rights-hating Muslims of the world while playing this game with me. It is becoming more clear that you support those things only for certain people.

    2) Democracy is irrelevant to Israel's safety. Israel can be attacked by a democratic nation or an non-democratic nation all the same, neither would be good for it, neither should affect the protection of the people of Israel. You are just using this as propaganda again. This is particularly irrelevant because you arbitrarily decide who is and who isn't a democratic government anyway. If you used or followed a clear standard, your statement might hold some value.

    Arming Israel with nukes increases the nuclear threat against it. It makes other countries more likely to develop nuclear weapons. So your statement that you are protecting Israel by selling it nuclear weapons technology is a joke, to say the least. Those neighbouring countries are your allies and the alllies of the US, except for the soon to be defunct Syrian regime. Iran does not neighbour Israel. Egypt has a peace treaty with Israel and are similarly financially aided allies of the US. Even the President of Egypt whom you characterize as Satan's child is a US PhD graduate and his children are US citizens. I am pretty sure he and his wife are US citizens as well.

    3) As I said, democracy is irrelevant to level of aggressiveness. This is a baseless argument on your part. The Nazi party was democratically elected IIRC.

    I did not characterize the Iranian regime as "poor" or even weak. I called them corrupt.

    However, since you bring it up, Iranians are in fact more oppressed than Israelis. The Iranian military which is controlled by their dictatorial regime has 0 nukes and 0 delivery devices despite their aggressive stance on Israel. The Israel government has 100's of nukes AND delivery devices, some of which were "sold" to it by Germany. Israel has full chemical and biological weapons capability, Iran has relatively few. Israel has the support of the United States, Iran has support from Russia/China whose combined military force is less than a tenth of the US.

    In terms of military might Israel can wipe Iran off the face of the earth, whereas Iran is working on developing a nuke and then looking for a delivery mechanism. Militarily, Iran is an impoverished country when compared to Israel. Furthermore Iran is surrounded on every single side, air/water/land by US and US allies.

    It is a weak attempt by you to sew some things together and paint a false picture. You can try to paint the image that I am somehow advocating the current Iranian regime, but this is a pure fabrication on your part. I have stated in the past and have stated here again my total criticism of them.

    You are hanging on to strings these days it seems as you are resorting more and more to personal attacks based on purer and purer fabrication on your part.
     
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    "All we are saying...is give peace a chance..."

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    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Did you notice that Israel has been attacking Gaza Strip for 2-3 days before this? Even on the day the Qatari leader was visiting?

    More likely, you don't care.
     
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    You have to ask yourself...

    Why were they 'attacking'?
    Who were they 'attacking'?
    We're the 'attacks' targeted or were they indiscriminate?

    Answer those questions as if you asking them of the Israelis and then the Palestinians.

    (As always, I don't expect an answer from you.)

    So let's see what the world news has to say...

    Easy question...
    Do you think that it is wrong of Hamas, or jihadis to launch indescriminate rocket attacks at the civilian population of Israel?

    Mathloom's answer...
    "IT WAS THE JEWS !!!
    [​IMG]
    "IT'S ALWAYS THE JEWS !!!


    :grin:
     
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    I'm against war, unlike you. Even in self-defense, it's not okay to target civilians and IMO it's not acceptable to take an action if the predictable outcome is the death of more innocent civilians.

    Tell me, who do you consider an appropriate Israeli target in such a conflict?

    You have clearly indicated that the attack which Israel engaged in was legitimate despite the absence of any evidence or trial. Then this must be war, and therefore you must be implying that Palestinian militants and Israeli military service people are somehow fair game.
     

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