I think this guy was just reporting the "rumor" around the water fountain. He did not claim to be in that kind of authoritative position. The topic was actually unemployment and he threw this in as a warning about future unemployment rates. One guy a couple of weeks ago called in and was raking on Obama. He made a kind of exasperated comment ~"... makes me just want to shoot the guy." The couldn't keep it off the air. I wonder what kind of trouble ensued there.
QdoubleA, Aside from saying 'substantated' five times or calling me a fool and uneducated, you nor Azadre had the knowledge or willingness to answer my questions. As physicians (or in-training ones) you (Azadre especially) is asking for employers to give up income in order to benefit society. Yet, I asked at any point would either of you be willing to give up your own income and open up a free or subsistence level clinic and give up your own income to benefit society? As neither was willing to I call both you guys out on your nonsense. And I reiterate that physicians and their wages are a point of contention not because they produce and make money, which is a good thing in society, but because the government subsidizes the field of medicine and physicans are able to bill people significant sums for money these people would never have. The lack of supply of physicians in this country is in part due to the physician and AMA run boards that try to keep international physicians out and severely limits the number of new accreditations given to medical schools which in turn artificially inflates physician salaries which in turn increases the federal debt and inflates costs to consumers. So I really think its just silly to make blanket statements that others should give while not willing to yourself. It just shows that you went into that profession primarily for the money and therefore have no right to ask others to sacrifice their income while you don't have the balls to do so yourself or to change your system to bring down prices and help society. Obama's head of his economic advisors, Larry Summers, came to the same conclusions above about the AMA, international physicians and accreditation issues so its not just me saying it. But you can't attack my argument so you say I need to get my GED and then say unsubstantiated 5 times. Just accept that you both are completely full of it.
LoL- "don't make blanket statements"..immediately proceeds to make blanket statements. Again I've shown that I do more than you do, have evidence to back up what I say while you can't back up anything you say, and you come off like a jealous child "You're just in it for monies!". Something you fail to understand, because you are not like me, is that when you are as motivated and skilled as a med student, you could have got a job making 6 figures without spending nearly a decade training and going into debt, but no, I'm just in it for the money. Stay jealous Rocketman. Keep ringing that bell, I'm sure someone will listen.
Tired of taking dumps on you Rocketman1981, I'm out of this thread for good, offer still stands, you really feel the way you feel, come to the school and say so....son.
Whatever the merits of either side, this is always a winning argument. I wish I had a dime for everytime I saw someone say "accept you that are full of it," and the other person says, "okay, you win." I would have, like... zero dimes.
What part of "contributing to society" means giving away your services? Couldn't it mean joining the military? Working for city, county, state, or federal governments? Working at a non-profit? Maybe charging a fair price? Not using deceptive advertising? Or here is a novel idea, corporations or manufacturers making business decisions with the "good of society" at the core of their philosophy? Decisions like, hey let's not dump that DDT in the river.
Gasoline should be free as well. Well at least your gas station since we subsidize oil quite heavily. I wish I had enough time to teach about why our health care system is the way it is. To keep it simple, employers who buy their health insurance at bulk will get a better deal than individuals. An employee will either receive their insurance as benefit of employment or pay out of pocket with their wages. If you're an employer, adding health benefits is a better option than paying them the equivalent of salary for an individual rate. Until we have a single payer system, these issues will not go away. And if I ran a free clinic, what would be the point? Treatment options would still cost money. Unless you can get CVS and Walgreen to start being free as well.
You do that by making externalities visible. There is no way most businesses can justify to the investor why they're spending 100k on a proper DDT disposal infrastructure when their other industry buddies are dumping it into the river. **** you, pay me. Businesses answer to that kind of mindset.
With an individual mandate and subsidized coverage for poor, why are we even sticking to an employer based pooling model? It simply doesn't make sense. It never really did, and now it's just even more inefficient. Why can't we just mandate that all consumers must purchase coverage (personal responsibility), and combine that with an individual-based coverage model, rather than employer based? Wouldn't that make everyone except the ultra far right and left happy?
This kind of pooling was necessary before the individual mandate and during the times when they could deny individuals coverage for pre existing conditions. Why is this the case now? With an individual mandate and non discriminatory policies, can't the risk pool just be the entire country?
You haven't answered anything you pompous fool. You haven't shown any of the above. If you had the skills to do something great you would, don't think as a med student you're that motivated or skilled more than most as there are millions of physicians in this country. There is nothing creative or original about what you do, and i'm not going to go into my situation but my family wanted me to go into medicine but I did something that brought me passion and allowed me to think creatively which has allowed significant success so there is no jealousy, just a statement of the lack of any coherence in your argument.
Did you really just tell me to come to the schoolyard to 'say so'??? Lol....I gotta love the gangsta med school student nerd and his buddies waiting for the fight outside. Hahahaha..that is the funniest thing i've ever heard and please don't talk about education and such when your signature is Go Coogs meaning you probably went to U of H, which I'm sorry to say is truly not an institution of great learning, though most really innovative thought is done outside of the walls of a school. Still can't believe I just got challenged to come to a med school playground and "Say it to yo face" hahahahahahah
This whole exercise is to portray your complete hypocrisy by way of sarcastic comments and the belief that other poeple should give up their incomes for the benefit of society while you are not willing to yourself? Just admit that you want others to sacrifice income to help keep the population healthy but you are not willing to sacrifice more to give a majority of your time to fix the problem you expect others to pay for. I am a capitalist and think it is one's honor to produce money and opportunity so I don't begrudge anyone making fortunes, just don't expect someone else to pay for your moral ideals. I think you are a hypocrite. That is all.
What are you talking about? I did not say that. edit: and I still have no idea why you called me a fob.
The statement above you wrote is an example. You write this in response to actions of large business to make changes and hours to soften the financial blow to profits of the ACA. Have to call you out on your statements. You have the power to help more poor people from dying than most yet you're unwilling to run a free clinic and sacrifice money, while you begrudge a company with sarcastic commentary for doing so. I'm just calling it out.
