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"My son is not very optimal, he is also very dead"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 19, 2012.

  1. David Stern

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    I don't Obama lied. But if the GOP trolls want to believe that then please get your slogan right. Diplomat died Obama lied. Not the other way around. SMHID
     
  2. David Stern

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    fixed
     
  3. thadeus

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    If basso really cared about lives like this, why did he support the Iraq invasion so resolutely?

    Just politics. Pretend like you care about something to make a political point. Support that same something when your 'side' does it.

    basso doesn't have ethics. he has politics.
     
  4. dandorotik

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    And his patron saint is Johnny Cochran.
     
  5. dandorotik

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    Thing #1 - if you want to know "where's the common sense?" you need to read this: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/10/17/uk-libya-usa-bluemountain-idUKBRE89G1TR20121017

    It explains a lot of things, including the rationale behind the decisions. Remember, from where you're sitting, hindsight is always 20/20.


    Thing #2 - During eight years of Bushdom, there were a dozen attacks on U.S. diplomatic activities, with nearly sixty people killed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_attacks_on_U.S._diplomatic_facilities

    22 January 2002 Calcutta, India - Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami gunmen attack Consulate 14 June 2002 Karachi, Pakistan - al-Qaeda truck bomb detonates outside Consulate 12 October 2002 Denpasar, Indonesia - Consular Office bombed by Jemaah Islamiyah 28 February 2003 Islamabad, Pakistan - Unknown gunmen attack Embassy 30 June 2004 Tashkent, Uzbekistan - Islamic suicide bomber attacks Embassy 6 December 2004 Jeddah, Saudi Arabia - al-Qaeda gunmen raid diplomatic compound 2 March 2006, Karachi, Pakistan - Car bomb explodes outside Embassy 12 September 2006, Damascus, Syria - Gunmen raid US Embassy 12 January 2007, Athens, Greece - RPG Fired at Embassy by Revolutionary Struggle 18 March 2008, Sana'a, Yemen - Mortar attack against US Embassy 9 July 2008, Istanbul, Turkey - Armed attack against Consulate 17 September 2008, Sana'a, Yemen - Two car bombs outside US embassy in Yemeni capital

    Where was Darryl Issa, Mitt Romney & the GOP's outrage in the media for all those attacks? Nowhere to be found.

    Where was "Basso"? Out to lunch.

    Score: Bush: 12 attacks in 8 years, Obama: 2 attacks in (almost) four years. The predictable election-year GOP response? Obama's either neck-deep in some kind of conspiracy & coverup (along with the CIA) or he's an incompetent bumbler. It's never the same two days in a row. I guess they pull out one for even-numbered days and the other for odd-numbered days.

    If the GOPhers were smart (ah, if only!), they'd STFU about Libya and focus on winning. They've already got the talk-radio vote, but the way to get the "undecideds" is not by their candidate having a Gerald Ford moment about Libya in the middle of a Presidential debate. Especially when he clearly doesn't have all the facts-- and the guy he's debating does.
     
  6. tallanvor

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    in what way are the Iraq War and the targeted attack/murder of Americans the same to you?

    He thought the handling of the embassy attack was awful therefore he couldn't possibly support the Iraq War? makes no sense.
     
  7. thadeus

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    Just like you, he doesn't give a **** about the embassy attack. He just wants to use it to score imaginary political points.

    The war in Iraq was unnecessary and it was the wrong target. basso was strongly, strongly in favor of that war. He didn't care much about the people who were going to get killed because of it.
     
  8. tallanvor

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    Heard you the first time. Didn't answer my question

    He thought/thinks it was necessary. That's why he supports/supported it.

    I still don't understand why you think it is hypocritical to be outraged at Obama's handling of the embassy attack and support the Iraq War. The only thing the two have in common is Americans died in both. Oh and they are both in the Middle East.
     
  9. Granville

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    Obama's the one using his handling of Terrorism as a talking point in this election by taking credit for the killing of Bin Laden. The counter to that is the fact that he intentionally misled the public regarding an act of terrorism that took American lives because he didn't want what happened in Libya to become a blackmark on his record.
     
  10. Dei

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    He was referring to their system, not the deaths.

    Jon Stewart must be restless right now knowing he was the one who lead the president to make that statement. And, he won't have the opportunity to clear it up until next week. He's not gonna have a very relaxing weekend.
     
  11. edwardc

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    and its ok to want to know what happen we all do but this is not a political issue.
     
  12. Dairy Ashford

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    I guess that's where he learned it from.
     
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    Did you hear the question Jon Stewart asked Obama? Obama spoke for three minutes about what happened on that night. Stewart then said " I would say and even you would admit to the American people that this was not the optimal response as far as us all being on the same page." Then Obama agreed that it was not optimal. Stewart used the word "optimal" in his question.

    Basso did you watch the interview? If so then you knowingly are making a big deal out of nothing. If you didn't watch it then it's even worse that you are spreading this crap. You are worse than my father in law who forwards me all of the Obama is a Muslim, Obamacare has a hidden transaction tax for everytime you use your ATM card emails.
     
  14. pahiyas

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    Ha ha. Good Luck with that. The B&B brothers will not watch that video. :grin: They do not click provided links. Heck, I don't think Basso even read his own link. They are afraid to know the truth. And they will have the temerity to ask, "what's your point?"

    They just continue spewing their own spin. The sad thing is, they BELIEVE it :(.

    NBA season, please start now.
     
  15. WinkFan

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    How is it not fair to criticize him if his State Department or CIA make a mistake? When FEMA screwed the pooch after Katrina, every bit of blame went to Bush. Tons of people still blame Bush for the economy 4 years after he left office.

    Obama is fully responsible for every mistake made by his administration. Despite his best efforts to say otherwise, the buck stops with Barack Obama, just like it has for every other president.
     
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  16. Raven

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    b**** slap!

    Well done, Sir. Well done.
     
  17. edwardc

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    that's what basso does make something out of nothing.
     
  18. leebigez

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    When you "occupy" other countries, especially those that dislike america, there will be attacks. Those attacks dont have to be calculated or given much thought since they're sitting right there big as day. Its like putting a $500k home in the hood. Its not really a matter of if, but when.
     
  19. Raven

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    See my new sig.

    ;)
     
  20. tallanvor

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    I haven't heard any politician criticize Obama because the embassy was attacked (though i could be wrong). The Obama administration is being criticized by some for

    1) not addressing requests for more security by the ambassador
    2) not reacting quick enough (the attack took 6 hours. Jets/Helicopters should be able to get there in that time).
    3) the distortion of truth to the public of what took place.
     

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