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Romney: OK for employers to influence employees' votes

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by dandorotik, Oct 17, 2012.

  1. dandorotik

    dandorotik Member

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    Now that I think about it, they have the right to influence their employees, right? Sort of like how you felt about the fake_jake tweet, right, Commodore?:

    "Wish it could be said his endorsement is meaningless real or fake, but the scary thing is there are people that would be influenced by it."
     
  2. Commodore

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    Did I say it's wrong for Jake G to try and intimidate/influence voters?
     
  3. thadeus

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    Calling this a 'free society' is dangerously naive, but that's a big part of the oligarchic hand-me-down ideology that you've been kind enough to adopt for those more powerful than yourself.
     
  4. CrazyDave

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    Well, I can be a little spiteful, what can I say. ;)
     
  5. Nook

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    This type of behavior is becoming more common and I find it troubling. I do know that some employees do vote as suggested/threatened by their employers. Thus far it has been from the Republican perspective mostly (sure that will change).

    Clutch's point is irrelevant, some employees will vote for candidates out of fear of losing their jobs. I am sure Team Obama will go after Unions to get their members in toe as well.
     
  6. False

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    Just like I don't want teachers telling kids how to vote, I don't want employers telling employees how to vote. Even if these actions create only a minimal chilling effect on voting, they are wrong. They are wrong because they are abuses of power and authority.
     
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  7. wekko368

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    Actually, his point is spot on. You just don't understand it.

    Go vote for whomever you want. If your boss implies that your job depends on voting for Romney, then tell him you voted for Romney.

    Simplicity itself.
     
  8. Raven

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    So a boss pressuring a subordinate for sex is the cost of living in a free society? This isn't free speech. It's fascism.
     
  9. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    It's a really a form of voter intimidation. Employees shouldn't have to lie to their boss to keep their jobs. Your boss can certainly find out what party you're registered with if you ever voted in a primary. Anyone who volunteers for a campaign could also be found out very easily.
     
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  10. heypartner

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    My last confession at church, my priest said my penance was "two Hail Mary's, 6 Our Fathers, and vote for Romney."
     
  11. Nook

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    What about the people that vote based on the veiled threats of losing their jobs? I am sure you will have no problem with labor unions busing their members to the polling place to vote dem. then.
     
  12. False

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    But, But. But. The employee is free to decline to have sex with the boss and then seek work elsewhere! The choice of blowing your boss or not blowing your boss and then looking for a new job is pinnacle of liberty. We should not seek a higher understanding because there is no higher understanding.
     
  13. wekko368

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    Anyone with common sense would realize that it's an empty threat.

    Employees lie to their bosses all the time. This would just be another victimless lie.
     
  14. Roxnostalgia

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    That's a lot of work that I would hope a boss would be putting to better use, yes even if they are delegating. Plus, I'd like to think I could throw him or her off by a stellar performance during Two Minutes Hate.
     
  15. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    I just explained how it's not an empty threat. Anyone with any common sense knows that aspects of people's personal lives often become public knowledge in a work environment.

    Employees should be forced to lie to their bosses?
     
  16. heypartner

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    You keep using that word

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  17. wekko368

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    You explained how it's not an empty threat? Are you referring to your strawman argument about party registration and volunteering?

    Like I said before, all employees lie to their bosses. And for the most part, they're harmless lies. This would just be another harmless lie.
     
  18. heypartner

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    The first start-up company I worked at, my boss "ordered" us all to get flu shots, because he feared one employee could get everyone sick for 5 days, devastating our deadline requirements for product release dates.

    I just laughed.

    I don't get why these things freak out Democrats, unless you think Dems are the party of dumb people. seriously. Don't Dems pride themselves on saying dumb people vote Republican, already.

    Now a poll tax...that's a different story.
     
  19. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    I guess you lack the ability to understand how easily the private lives of employees can become public knowledge in the workplace. Like I said before, employees should be forced to lie to their bosses?
     
  20. wekko368

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    Sorry, but I do understand it. In fact, since I realize that it's irrelevant to the topic at hand, it looks like I understand it better than you...

    Like I said before, all employees lie to their bosses. And for the most part, they're harmless lies. This would just be another harmless lie.
     

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