The issue of Abortion in accordance to Christian beliefs

You are absolutely right. I'm not a moderator. If I were, this thread would be locked, and certain people who constantly start crap threads in this forum would no longer have that privilege. If you feel like posting the same garbage over and over again, go right ahead. I don't have to read it. I just have to wade through the trash.

 

Unless, of course, that baby turns out to be gay, or worse, liberal. Then you must kill it with fire. It is known.

 

What if the baby is really ugly?

 

You're trolling this thread.

 

No, that would be you, trolling the forum.

 

When does abortion become murder? 3 months, 6 months or 9 months?

I am Christian.

I am against abortion.

I am for universal health care in some form, we have medicare
in Australia.

As I said before, in a country where Blake Griffin can get $95 million to dunk a basketball, you should be able to give free health care to the needy.

 

High five

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gaylord.

 

i eat placentas.

There you go.

 

Not every sperm is sacred.

 

I'm not a Christian.

I think abortion should be provided on demand as part of tax-payer subsidized healthcare.

I also think people who make babies they can't afford are committing child-abuse and should be treated as such.

If you can debate whether women can terminate their own pregnancies, you can damn well debate whether they have the right to get pregnant at all, or for that matter for men to get them pregnant.

Maybe non-gay people should be forced to earn a license to have sex, with maybe extra endorsements to procreate.

 

deckard-- the center of the known CF Universe!

There are always new people. There are always new angles. People change their thinking. Quit trying to squash discussion about important matters that threaten you....

 

Our first laws were based on the Ten Commandments. Murder being illegal is a good example. I am glad that we have gone away from a theocracy, but that is the origin of law.

On a side note...if you do not believe, that's cool. However, being degrading to those who do believe by condescendingly calling religious beliefs "fairy tales" just makes you an *******.

 

You don't have to be religious to believe life begins at conception and that said life is worth protecting, you know.

 

No, but you have to be some kind of prick to decide that your personal moral belief should be forced upon someone who doesn't share it. You truly have to be an ass to think that you have the right to pass legislation dictating what a woman can or cannot do with her uterus.

 

Thank goodness for the establishment clause and separation of church and state.
I personally, along with many rational Americans, do not think religion should have ANY place in government today. You can have morals without being religious you know.
That may not have been your intention, but that's what I got from what you said.

On the other hand I welcome people following whatever religion they want to follow, granted it doesn't infringe upon the rights of others. Regardless, its a personal belief and thankfully not public policy.

 

Any kind of prohibition is somebody forcing their moral beliefs on the masses. Prostitution, gambling...the list goes on and on.

Those who are ardently against abortion are so because they believe that it is murder and murder is wrong. Would you rather have an ass or a hypocrite? Interesting question.

 

That's what being in a society means. That's why I don't buy Biden's complacency on abortion.

 

Nowhere did I say that religion should be in government. In fact, I explicitly stated that I am glad we moved way from theocracy. I merely pointed out the origin of law. Also, nowhere did I suggest that all morals flow from religion.

You read a ton of stuff in my post that simply was not there.

 

Or its mom needs government assistance just to barely get by. Her and her kid will be labeled a moocher even though what they take from government is a lot less than 1% in comparison to what big corporations get in the form of tax cuts or research development.

But that's okay because the baby was born in world where the odds are highly stacked against them. You can't claim to be pro-Life and then stop giving a **** about the baby after its born. Pro-Life means wanting everyone to have a good opportunity to have a good quality of life from birth all the way to hopefully old age while receiving a respectable death.

In practical terms to me, that means being willing to have higher taxes if it ensures that everyone "mooch" and "non-mooch" will receive a quality education, have affordable healthcare and a safe environment to live and grow up in. Guess what? That means higher taxes to pay teachers, firefighters, cops, fund educational programs that help aspiring students that truly want to go far in life but also the ones that don't, construction workers that fix the potholes in roads or add additional lights to dark and unsafe alleys and of course ensure that even the lowliest of homeless that may even contribute nothing to our society, that even they are given fair treatment in receiving quality healthcare. That's part of being Pro-Life to me.

If you think lobbing some donation money to your church or charity is you aiding the cause to your Pro-Life agenda, you're probably at least somewhat right. I hope your money is well spent by whatever cause you support. And while this is where ideologies should separate and Republican and Democrat should be able to respectfully disagree with one another on this, I just happen to think government at a national capacity would be able to do what your favorite charity cannot. Reach out and help a lot more people. Respectfully disagree if you must. There's no need to be a dick if you side with a more Republican ideology. Just don't claim to be Pro-Life if you only give a **** about it being born and stop caring once it is.