Can someone please show me where Mitt Romney himself, in his own words, has proposed a $5 trillion tax cut? No, you cannot. The only place that this idea exists is in the propaganda manufactured by Obama and his supporters. And during the debate last Wednesday night, Romney was able to present his own policy proposals in his own words. No filters, no paraphrases. Obama tried to present his spin on Romney's tax reform proposal several times during the debate as well. The people heard both sides and decided that Romney's proposals are what he says they are, and not what his opponent tries to spin them to be. Case closed. Of course nobody will be surprised to see the usual hardcore Obama supporters here in this forum trying to support Obama's position, even when it is effectively unsupportable. And we have seen a good deal of that here in this thread. Romney did a great job during the debate last Wednesday. By the measure of Obama's historical debate performances, Obama did well, too. Romney was just better and more persuasive with the American people. Romney won the debate as a result of turning in a superior debate performance.
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-10-04/the-real-story-about-romneys-tax-cut-plan Why don't you take it up with the Tax Policy Center, which has been the darling of the GOP in the past. There is no real question that the plan calls for a $5,000,000,000 tax cut.
#1 How is that climate change argument working for you? #2 Obama did not do well. Further, if Obama is usually terrible in debates, then why did he out perform McCain in all 3 debates 4 years ago? #3 Obama is in good company losing his first debate as an incumbent... joins Reagan and G.W. Bush.
Like Romney explained to President Obama during the debate, there are quite a few more fact checkers that refute Obama's assertion that Romney is proposing a $5 trillion tax cut. Here are several for your consideration: Here is an evaluation of the Tax Policy Center analysis that Obama supporters have been trying to hang their hats on: Here is the video where the $5 trillion assertion was debunked on CNN: CNN - Obama Campaign Concedes Their 5 Trillion Attack Is Not True: <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Q0g8COdYcU0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Next Factcheck.org debunks these false assertions: Here is an analysis by Princeton economist John McCormack: And there are several more. Needless to say, Obama is lying through his teeth, as usual, and these assertions just do not hold water.
1. The climate has been constantly changing since the formation of the Earth and it always will be. Are there liberals suggesting that they intend to stop the Earth's climate from changing? If there are any, they are either liars or complete fools. Either way, they cannot and will not do any such thing. 2. Obama put in a typical performance in this debate, as did Mitt Romney. There is no basis for believing that Obama is an unusually talented debater. Certainly not his debate performances from 2008. Don't get me wrong, Obama is not a bad debater. In fact, he is reasonably good, as we saw last Wednesday. But Romney is clearly better. That we saw last Wednesday as well. 3. Romney accomplished a lot more here than just winning the debate. If that was all he did, then I would agree with you that this is a transient achievement at best. What Romney accomplished here is to define himself and to consign to the ash-heap of history Obama's very expensive and outrageous effort to define Romney through an attack ad campaign. Obama's entire campaign strategy was built around his effort to destroy Romney as a credible candidate. In the debate last Wednesday, Romney shattered that strategy to splinters, once and for all. You better hope Obama can come up with an effective alternative strategy quickly. Because if he cannot, he is very likely going to lose this election.
1-3 percentage points is totally arbitrary. 2-If this logic pervaded Republican heads more often, there wouldn't be such an ignorance of macro-economics. Let's say your spending cut causes economic growth to go down by x percentage points---then your debt/GDP ratio balloons anyways! This is what is actually happening in Europe, as Macro101 heads love to pick at that.
Wonderful logic.... lets throw out what 99.8% of the scientists say on the subject and rely on a few scientist, many of which are funded by the Koch brothers. If you think Obama gave a "typical" performance then you are live in some bizarre alternate reality. Yes, Romney is CLEARLY a better debator, as was Mondale a better debater than Reagan.... am I right?.... No.... Romney won a debate, nothing more. Further, Romney now has to explain why he threw out his own tax plan on the fly, and relied on a number of easily proven falsehoods. Romney will be on the defensive next debate for that reason. Was it worth it for Romney? Absolutely, his campaign was on life support and now he has seen a 2-4 point bump, it remains to be seen for how long. Alternative strategy to what? To parrying the entire debate and counting on winning the electoral college? That is possibly true... although history shows that debates only matter marginally..... Romney has to figure out how he is going to win an election if cannot win the electoral college. In states like Ohio there are not enough undecided voters to sway to grab the state, that means he needs people to change their mind... not an easy one to pull off.
Did you read the articles you posted? This is from the Heritage foundation website So how does the Heritage foundation know what Mitt hasn't said? You didn't post the whole part of the tax discussion from factcheck.org: And the actual conclusion from the Princeton professor: https://www.princeton.edu/ceps/workingpapers/228rosen.pdf
Thank you so much for this. I've had a lot of theories over the years but you have helped me to understand why I've never been able to sit through his (incredibly pretentious) plays.
Sorry, this fails one of my check boxes on the "Are you an intelligent person?" test, and it's one of my greatest pet peeves. Anyone who denies anthropogenic global warming or doesn't believe in evolution is just not intelligent or is purposefully ignorant.
People that don't believe in global warming are the same types of people that believe in "Young Earth" theories and creationism. Sorry guys but political correctness does not apply here: you are a moron.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/12/1082975/-EVERY-Romney-Lie-In-One-Place-UPDATED (I'm sure Obama has a list too, but it couldn't be this long, and alot of them could be considered broken promises, obstructed attempts, or appeasement)
