Thank you. I can't believe that all some people have to say about this is to attack the OP. Disgusting.
Very tragic. I hope she pulls through. My hope is that something so tragic can wake the silent majority of these countries to counter the politics of hate preached by the extremists. Sad that it may take something so senseless to wake them up.
The fact that you would use this tragedy to take unrelated potshots at Obama just shows how our partisan loyalties can make people do and say morally abhorrent things. You ought to be truly ashamed of yourself, and I don't think just editing out what you said is enough. You should apologize and admit you were wrong Your logic is also shockingly dumb. "The Taliban has too much power and control in Pakistan, therefore we should have pulled out in Afghanistan." Let me help you out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_map http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan Back to the actual topic, this is a horrible tragedy that has to get any normal human being angry. Hopefully this is a wake up call to the Pakistani government (doubtful) that their tolerance of religious extremism has crippled their country.
Nobody, he included Obamas name for...who knows what reason, but he has nothing to do with this story. That a man could raise a gun to a child under the pretense of religion is despicable, I hope whoever is responsible is dealt with accordingly.
Obama has NOTHING to do with this.... this is about a child that spoke out and as a result was murdered by a small group of thugs that have entirely too much control and power.
I agree that this has nothing to do with Obama, but the problem is that something like this happens in a climate of fanaticism and intolerance. One has to battle religious intolerance and fanaticism much before it leads to something like this. Those who keep making excuses for religious fanaticism or who keep looking the other way ultimately let something like this happen.
So where is the outrage? Both in the Islamic and the non-Islamic world? What kind of world do we live in that some irrelevant "movie" serves as an excuse for a ton more outrage than a barbaric act like this, in the name of an extremist ideology? I don't see anyone burning flags or storming embassies over this. I don't even see Carl Herrera posting a thread about this.
you're wrong. The outrage is deff. there, which is a good thing. Quick note and not an insult, just look up stuff like this before posting instead of using your intuition to describe general sentiments.
Libya? Indonesia? Egypt? Where is the international outrage? And where is the outrage from our resident leftist posters? A lot of them seemed quite upset about the "trolling" video. And weren't there some people who said one should negotiate with the "moderate" Taliban? Really?
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Late...d-defied-threats-from-Taliban-for-years-video A true Muslim hero.
The international outrage is coming from American authorities and UN officials. Their anger and the Pakistani peoples' anger will have a lot more effect than flag-burning. Last time this happened in 2009, it triggered a mass offensive by Pakistani forces, and that was over a recorded beating. As for the "outrage from resident leftist posters" I think many are off-put by both your and Izak's posting style, narrow stereotyping (with the label being a prime example) and belligerence. This is a terrible crime. I don't think I even need to articulate my stance on this issue, and neither, quite frankly does anyone from D&D. A girl was shot for nothing more than religious stupidity. Given the internet's antipathy to religious nonsense, you would think you knew where most people stand. The fact that this was in D&D in the first place and filled with caterwauls from you and Izak is just consistent with the politicization of every tragedy associated with Islam. Which is fine, carry on. I just want to let you know why almost no one will bother engaging in a genuine dialogue with you or Izak on this topic.
It's always the same excuse the leftists come up with when something like this happens (which is...like...all the time). "What is there to discuss?"...shrug.
I think its because the outrage over the video stems from it being "controversial" and the debate it brought about concerning free speech and religious tolerance. This story is a tragedy and everyone can agree that the Taliban are a despicable lot with an evil, destructive ideology. So for us, there's really nothing to debate; no controversy. Maybe within Pakistan its different, but in the West everyone should be on the same page about what kind of people the Taliban are. Its like if there was a band of serial murderers on the loose, terrorizing innocents. Would there be people taking to the Internet to express outrage over it? Not so much, I think. When everyone is in agreement on how horrible these people are, what's the point saying it over and over? Rather, they might express outrage over the way the investigation is being handled -- something that sane people could actually have differing opinions on -- but that's a different thing.
There's plenty to discuss. I gave you points and information to discuss. This has happened before in Pakistan, and there have been results. You just like retreating to personal characterizations, and I leave that to you why that is.
