some fans do have longer history, but they could be casual or even dorment, while some fans may input more efforts and time and almost know everything about the player. I know some Lin fans who have watched Lin games over and over again, to the extent they are able to describe every detail of those games. I think it is fair to give them the credit of long time fans
Then, I'm sorry, there will continue to be pushbacks from Lin fans. Do you guys expect hardened Knicks fans to be pushovers who'll just take your crap on the chin? Seriously? As you point out, Dragic left of his own accord because Morey would've been insane to guarantee a fourth year, considering the guy is one of the league's most inconsistent players. His not being here has nothing to do with Lin, yet that hasn't stopped Dragic's nuthuggers from witlessly whining about Lin's "inferiority" at every opportunity. Personally, I'm rather contemptuous of a guy who's been pro-balling for around a decade (I believe Dragic never attended even high school, much less college) and is still, at best, marginally better than a sophomore like Lin. (Even then, ESPN ranking experts beg to differ about Dragic being better, haha!) But that's just me, I suppose. That's plain dishonest. There were posters here last year who felt the Rockets should keep Lin instead of Flynn because he did distinguish himself even in the limited minutes he played during preseason games. See my post above about Lin being a star player at HS and college levels. FYI, a common mantra of Palo Alto's and Harvard's opponents was that to stop those teams, you just had to take care of Lin. Easier said than done, of course. See, that's a factoid that only we Lin diehards can just palm off from memory. Unless sabotage is involved, it'll be totally Lin's fault if he allows Machado to take away his starting spot from him. My beef with the whole Machado episode is that the guy is taking advantage of Lin's saintliness when he goes around claiming to be a "pure point guard" unlike the Rockets' starting PG. He'd certainly never have attempted to pull off that crap if Lin were a Carmelo-like personality. I'd have been equally mortified if, say, Lamb was going around claiming to have been a more efficient scorer in college than K-Mart. Would I have been just as vocal, though? Probably not, coz I'm Strictly LOF.
You gotta cut that chit out whatever it is you think you're doing. And know that you're not helping out JLin whatsoever.
Stuck on stooooooooopid, aren't you? It's clear to me a good number of his fans here have seen just about every one of his pre-NBA games that are available on film. Trust me, because unlike you I know what I'm talking about. I certainly know a fellow diehard when I come across one. In high school and at Harvard, he was clutch and a big-occasion player, and had an uncannily anticipatory way of finding his teammates in sweet spots for easy buckets. And yes, he was turnover-prone.
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You need to chill out and take a walk in the park, boy. Go take a shower, play some video games. Take some time off from CF. It'll help, trust me. I'm not trying to pick a fight, just a friendly advice. If your smart you take my advice and do not reply.
If LOF's are going to go full r****d, I am more than willing to go full r****d with them lol It's fun because they can't take friendly banter on a forum.
Naaaaah...you don't have to "go" full r****d. It "comes" naturally to you, if you know what I mean. Here, let me help you out a little: career: a person's progress or general course of action through life or through a phase of life, as in some profession or undertaking In other words, "career" does not equal "professional career" or "NBA career". You're welcome. P.S. - You're right, this is fun.
Merriam Webster can be an excellent place for knowledge, but does reading the dictionary cover-to-cover make one an expert on everything? The dictionary has no context to supplement a further understanding of the material. The context in this case is that an athlete often progresses an exponential amount from highschool years, through the college years. The Jeremy Lin you watched in Palo Alto, and in Boston, is not the same Jeremy Lin you are watching in Clutch's videos of training camp. Hence, the film study you've done is losing it's relevance a little bit every day. It may be valuable as an experience to yourself and your appreciation of Lin, but from an analytical stand point on his game, it's magnitude is on a negative trend. Furthermore, the NBA is so leaps and bounds ahead of collegiate and highschool basketball, they are not even in the same ball park(no pun intended). What an athlete accomplishes in highschool and/or college is never a clear indicator for NBA success. More often than not, a good portion most prolific collegiate players become mediocre NBA players; that's if they even make it into the League. Past success will get you into the door at times, but it won't keep you afloat for very long. Hence, my belief of you following his career outside of the NBA does not make you more of an authority on Lin's game than someone who started following since his time in the NBA.
Sorry if I come across as less than polite, because I think at some level you're trying to have a conversation rather than just bash LOFs. Apollo asked in an earlier post how Lin's HS game is relevant now, and my response based on the general consensus and my own observations was: In high school and at Harvard, he was clutch and a big-occasion player, and had an uncannily anticipatory way of finding his teammates in sweet spots for easy buckets. And yes, he was turnover-prone. Here's the deal: Lin's detractors frequently talk about him "falling back to earth" and "regressing to the mean". Well, that is his mean - the fearlessness, the BBIQ, the unselfishness, the instincts developed from being a lifelong student of the game. Barring injury, these traits are not going to fail him in the NBA. Lin diehards saw all these at Palo Alto and Harvard, and you probably witnessed some degree of them during Linsanity. I could write a thesis on what we know about Lin that you don't. For instance, if you go back all the way to when he was 8 years old or so, he would always become the best player of each team he committed himself to, regardless if he was the youngest or smallest member among his mates. Another tidbit: his Harvard coach, a Duke alumnus (I believe), boldly hailed Lin as "one of the best playmakers in the country" even though he knew he'd catch some flack for it because of Harvard's lack of bball pedigree. I, for one, have absolutely no doubt whatsoever about his game. It's his durability that I worry about.
not sure if it worth a thread so im posting it here: Tyson Chandler says Jeremy Lin wasn't ready to run team Spoiler Knicks center Tyson Chandler is a love the one you're with guy and Jeremy Lin is no longer with him. Chandler, a booster of Lin last season when Linsanity exploded, says the team is better off now that the point guard has left for Houston. Lin averaged 14.6 points and 6.2 assists before his season ended with a knee injury. Chandler told Al Iannazzone of Newsday that "Jeremy was a young point guard who was inexperienced, who brought a great light to the organization. But as far as being able to run the offense and putting players in the right positions he just wasn't there. We got some veteran point guards that are capable of doing that." Those "veteran' guards are Jason Kidd and Raymond Felton who came over from Dallas and Portland. "The intensity is way up and also there's also calmness when we're coming downcourt, with the point guards getting things under control and making sure we get good shots every possession," Chandler said. http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameo...rk-knicks-houston-rockets-jason-kidd/1622009/
already posted on dish . i dont think it's much of a big issue rit now,of course tyson would be repping his own teammates.do i agree entirely with his statement?half yes half no. i sorta agree with donatas(see the dish comments) here. the media has been asking too many times partly due to ne the mgt did not clear the air/issue any statement regarding to lin's departure,and two ,lin's departure leaves a media vacuum .in a short period of time they did not have "issues" for them to gossip about.there are some other reasons,but these r what i can think of at present. and tyson has played company man role quite a few times ,if u ever read his interviews .and this comes from someone who's a tc fan.
I think you're either giving yourself too much credit or not fully aware of how much Lin was talked about during "Linsanity". Those two tidbits were covered by the media and I'm sure more people know it than you realize. That's not the type of information that's going to standout for any player. A lot of these guys were better than the rest at 8, 10, 14, and so on. Many of their coaches would also claim they were the best at something too. They're nice stories to tell, but too common for them to wow fans. And Lin can maintain the " fearlessness, the BBIQ, the unselfishness, the instincts developed from being a lifelong student of the game" and still "fall back to earth." There are definitely players out there with those qualities, who are not all-star, stars, and in some case, not even starters. Even his coaches don't believe he'll be able to put up the same numbers over a season. There's nothing illogical about expecting him to come back down from his performances last season. He was well above "earthling" level last season, that he can still fall back down to a very good level of play, so not all posters are saying he'll automatically suck.
Did you read the post that I was responding to? Did the poster seem like he/she knew anything at all about Lin beyond what little he/she caught on TV during Linsanity? Don't pretend you knew any more yourself until a week or so ago when some Lin fans took you to the woodshed in another contentious thread. You say those traits and his excelling at every level of his career are common in the league. I say they're not. No point arguing about who's right, because the season's just a couple of weeks away and we can get back to this debate in due course. Suffice it to say, one of us will be eating crow.
