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[ESPN] For Royce White, It's a Matter of Trust

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Oct 5, 2012.

  1. Easy

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    Why would the Rockets waste a #16 pick over a traveling agreement like that?
     
  2. Easy

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    Hmm, I know many people, including myself, have that problem too. :)
     
  3. DonatasFanboy

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    since when is sending a guy to Europe = wasting a pick? It's not so unusual, in fact you have another guy who spent an extra year in Europe on your roster.

    Europe = better basketball than NBDL, good minutes, less intense schedule, and less flying. Looking back at the issues and at the Rockets roster, it might've been the wise thing to do, if they knew these things in advance.
     
  4. ico4498

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    kinda convenient how this disorder leaves him blameless ...
     
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  5. Easy

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    Europe and the D-league are for people who are not ready for baskekball reasons, not for mental illness.
     
  6. DonatasFanboy

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    Does that mean that Europe is for bad players? If so, you don't know what you are talking about. Europe is a competitive place, depending on what league you play in. If you aren't sure about someone and aren't sure if you have minutes to develop him, but want to retain rights, it's one of the better solutions.
     
  7. G Zus Kryst

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    u got da dumbest name evar......grow up....geez
     
  8. jim1961

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    Can you imagine a worse place to send someone who wants/needs familiar surroundings and doesnt deal with flying well?

    How long does it take to get to Europe from Houston by boat?
     
  9. DonatasFanboy

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    if he'll manage so much flying in the NBA, he'd probably manage a 1 trip to Europe. He did say that pre-flight is worse than flying to him.

    But overall impact of being in Spain or France is a legit concern. Or so it seems to me, I'm not qualified to judge. I've no idea which work environment would be more stressful (intense, 82 game schedule all over North America with a lot of flying, or a 30-40 game schedule with little to no flying in a smaller country). Or which specific factors hurt White the most, individually.

    But the arguments were that sending a guy to Europe = wasting a pick, or that such option is not suitable for someone with White's skill level, which doesn't seem true to me.
    If it was me, I'd absolutely get the Rockets' signature on the contract before talking about missing games. It's not a cool thing to do, but it's just reality of life. A team with multiple PFs, a team that has quite a bit of experience with Euro leagues, no contract. I'd be worried. I'd get the money too before raising these issues.
     
  10. jim1961

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    My response was specifically concerning White in Europe or getting to Europe. I agree with your thoughts regarding players in general.
     
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    yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...... i'm thinkin.....screw him! jus sayin....
     
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    That's not what was said. The point was, not signing a guy because of traveling arrangement is a waste of a pick. You then said that sending him to Europe was not wasting a pick. I think that was the dumbest thing to do.

    Are you serious? Sending a guy to Europe because you don't want him to ride a bus to games?
     
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    He flew to Europe with ISU.
     
  14. DonatasFanboy

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    how about sending a guy to Europe because you aren't sure you'll be able to develop him properly due to a variety reasons, and want to postpone the rights to full 4 year rookie contract?

    You are simplifying it so much that I'm not sure if you are arguing just to argue right now, or do you really not understand me so badly. I've explained it before pretty well, I think.

    Look, the question was, why did he not push for a bus before signing the contract. My point is, it was risky from Royce camp's point of view.
    You have a roster with many PFs and are likely to send some of them to lower level. A guy who's changing his tune regarding planes from 'i'm fine with it' to 'i'm not sure i can deal with it'. And you have a legal structure of the NBA where if you can get a guy to do to Europe, it beats sending a guy to the NBDL due to how contracts work.
    I'd be worried.
    This isn't about just a bus and it's not wasting a pick, but oh well.
     
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    This guy is a disaster.

    There is simply no explicable reason why this rookie has missed practices and will miss a pre-season game.

    As far as the mental illness is concerned, it has nothing to do with this guy not getting his ass to training camp to be with his team.

    Training camp is not in China.
     
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    Lol just a couple of months ago, everyone was in Royce White's corner.:rolleyes:
     
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    Some of us have remained in his corner from the start.

    Others seem to have a problem accepting that their current perception and understanding of mental illness may be wrong.
     
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    Uh no kidding ...that was before he skipped his first training camp,that he obviously could have attended :rolleyes:
     
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    How quickly they turn, right?

    Dude handled this poorly, but he will still be fine once he starts playing.

    He needs basketball because it helps calm his anxiety when he's on the court.

    The Rox cant bow down to every demand, but letting dude bus to *some* games at his own expense is nothing.

    Thats all you have to do to have this potential beast on your team?

    It's a no damn brainer.

    Let that man ride greyhound if he wants lol

    Long as he gets his ass to the games, its all good.
     

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