Science is not turned on its head time and time again. That's an exaggeration. Did the Buckyball turn chemistry on its head, or was it an enormous discovery of a molecule that led to new research. Being thorough is almost by definition being "slow and methodical," Is that a bad thing? Thorough is also referred to by the lazy as being "stubborn." I think we are going to spiral into Semantics. I'm not going there. Doc Shocks has no peer review. This is very common. Some dude learns how to Shock the world, because he wants fame and money, and he knows us laymen will always agree to disagree by saying, "you and I don't really know, so he might be right." hogwash. Again, thanks for the link. As for the definition of paradigmatic shift, I don't think finding new Archeological sites (and added that to our knowledge) is the same thing as someone challenging the established interpretation of a well-known existing site.
Perhaps so but it provides a convenient excuse not to even consider the possibility. That said, I understand it because not everyone had unlimited time to look into things. Me, I'm a researcher that reads A LOT so I do all that reading, connect dots and try to come up with what makes sense. Sometimes it can be regarded as right (for example, I don't buy for one minute that the Holocaust didn't happen although perhaps exaggerated), sometimes wrong, sometimes controversial and sometimes the academic consensus. It's easier for me/people now days because of having the internet and books as resources and being able to look at different kinds of arguments and weigh them within hours. I get where you're coming from though.
I just think world history isn't what they tell us. This began when a very prominent pop culture figure shouted that the history books were lies but more I thought about things, the more I started thinking it couldn't be what we're told, like civilization starting only 6,000~ years ago. I mean the idea of ancient men building the massive and detailed structures at Giza (with the Sphinx presumably being doctored in about the time we'd expect it to be), the Nazca lines, Easter Island, Stonehenge, etc... I'm just saying that if we would have a hard time building some of these monuments with our current technology, then how did supposedly primitive people do it? Like I said, as is the case with the pyramids, I can't buy the explanations and time scale. It's easier for some to say "aliens" without concrete proof but the best answer is we just don't know. Remember that point made earlier about a lie being told enough to point it comes true? That's not just for conspiracies, if a scientific theory (not necessarily a lie but you get it) is said a repeated often enough, it becomes true, look at the Big Bang...THEORY.
Wowzers. We've know how the pyramids were built... we know how the Easter Island statues were built made and transported. You have to selectively choose to ignore facts for the fantastical. Humans are freaking smart. We were not stupid or incapable in the past. Notions of that is borderline ridiculous. Here's one guy by himself with some ropes and wood moving gigantic blocks! (can't confirm his planet of origin though) <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/pCvx5gSnfW4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> There are tons of megalithic sites all over the world. Knowledge of building and moving large stones has been around forever. nevermind - it's Aliens ya'll.
The Sphinx was awesome. That video is so old it could vote. :grin: I remember seeing the video (on TV, mind you) a long time ago and thinking: YEAP, that's how the Aztecas built Tenochtitlán. Or... maybe... non-resident aliens (without green cards)...
Okay, solid argument for Stonehenge. What are you thoughts on Giza, especially in relation to their accuracy (in many forms of that word) and the astrological alignment of the structures?
Just like they had skilled labor, engineers, and other various skilled people for megalithic construction - they also had astronomers! Information gathered: time periods for agriculture/farming, navigation and of course aligning religion with certain astronomical phenomenon's and celestial bodies. The Mayans were also a people that were spectacularly accurate with their astronomical views/data and time keeping. Long and short calendars etc - all garnered by observations of the night sky with the naked eye! Just math and looking up - telescopes be damned.
Yes, precisely. Thanks for educating a layman such as myself. I understand the whole concept of peer-reviewed studies and why ideas like the Sphinx being 10000 years old tend to not get much play, it's still fun to speculate and discuss it though. Even if you can show they had the manpower and techniques to move huge blocks of stone 500+ miles and stack them on top of each other, it still boggles my mind that they were doing that thousands of times for hundreds of years, that literally generations of Egyptians lived and died without having seen the beginning or end of the project they so feverishly worked to complete. Or at least, to me it is mind-boggling and mysterious, like heypartner says, I'm often left wondering why others don't feel the same as me. Then rimbaud comes along with his grad school Egyptology experience, and I realize many feel different because they've actually studied it in an official capacity. lol Although I would like to hear your answer to couple of the questions posed by others as this thread has progressed, like your thoughts on Graham Hancock or "what is your preferred ramp method theory for pyramid construction" as joshfast asked.
So then the question becomes if they had all of this technology and knew all of this advanced math that many everyday people struggle with, even when they try very hard what happened between then and modern times? How come North America, Technotilan aside, isn't just filled with these amazing structures for example? Did we as humanity just become real stupid all of a sudden? Seen another way, look at how the most advanced people a thousand years ago (at that time I believe the Muslims were) lived and the technology/architecture they had compared to the Mayans. And they were on one side of the world and presumably had no communication with the Khemetians--err, I mean Egyptians. Heck, look at the way the most advanced civilization 300-400 years ago, Western Europe, lived and their technology/architecture compared to the ones mentioned as well as the people they encountered as they Westernized the world. Basically, all I'm saying what happened to all that knowledge?
Doesn't make any sense. Maybe look at a timeline of history to get a grip with it. Civilizations rise and fall for various reasons. Most civilizations don't put their knowledge in stone and are lost to history unless we dig up artifacts - the ones who did we know about them. Because they were hunter/gather like societies all they way up until Europeans landed here. When you have to travel to hunt and find food, you have to stay in smaller packs and not stay on-site to build giant megalithic structures. We also constantly dig up new megalithic sites all around the world. The ones you are interested in are located in parts of the world were they weren't eroded, weathered, buried or taken back by nature. Curiously, the ones you have mentioned as mysteries are the ones we have the most historical data for - they left it for us. In stone. There is no way around this - you have to close your ears, put on your tin foil hat and just selectively ignore it. People and civilizations who don't leave a record of writing in stone to last over time we have little knowledge about.
Okay, we can agree to disagree. I think some still have some of that knowledge but it's closely guarded away from modern people.
And my previous post also predicted this quote of yours -- that's two correct predictions. Are you like, doing this on purpose, or did you really not see my second prediction in this thread. see this
I understand. “The problem with building an ideology is that it gives an answer before you look at the evidence. You need to mold the evidence to get to the answer.” Instead of searching out the answers you want and desire, from the same like minded ideologues - use unbiased Scientific Method yo it's all that and a bag of chips.
People always seem to completely underestimate the minds and ingenuity of ancient people. Contrary to popular belief, they were some extremely intelligent people back then.
the dudes webpage that the OP posted looks like it was built in the 90's by a grade schooler and looks like crap. People might take him more seriously if he at least has a more professional looking webpage.
