Did you see Royce White in summer league or did you just watch the highlights? White is a project and not likely to be of real benefit for the team this season. Heck odds were in favor of White being in the D-League for a good while anyway. Whining over his known issues claiming this affects the team in any significant fashion won't help, heck all this exposure of the issue probably caused his anxiety problems about heading into the NBA to increase. White wasn't in the cards to start and he had players with more experience in front of him that could play the two positions(SF and PF) they likely would have put him in. Him going through this makes the organization look bad because they drafted him but they did anyway given we were loaded at the position they did draft him in. It will ultimately be sorted out but griping about it like it is a big deal or he was drafted with a top ten pick won't help. I bet Marcus Morris, Terrance Jones, Donato Motiejunas, Patrick Patterson, Chandler Parson and whoever else the team has playing at the SF or PF positions are not complaining about Royce White not being there to take their touches or playing time in scrimmages needed to impress the coaches.
I think it's appropriate, and timing is still ok, but seems like there would have been a better approach to developing a plan. But if suffering now, like I said in the other thread, could be 4-6 weeks before he comes back healthy. Through no fault of his own. It just may take that long to stabilize him.
I wish Royce nothing but the best in terms of his mental health, but I think as someone who is getting paid a lot of money, he has not handled this like a professional.
I suspect the discussion on an agreement has started a while ago, and the front office didnt take it seriously until a work strike happened. Either way, this doesnt sound good. Best luck to Morey in reaching an "agreement" with someone with obsession.
I just want to tell you that I am a medical student and half of the stuff you are telling people are false. 1. Your comments about anxiety disorders - anxiety isn't only about fears. It can be, but it is a multitude of things 2. Mental disorders are a serious serious thing. I know you think I am talking down to you but for the love of god...do not ignore someone when they tell you they have a problem mentally. 3. I don't want to belittle your cancer story, but the chances of her beating it mentally is absolutely zero. She either responded to chemotherapy well because the cancer was not indolent or hadn't mutated to that extent. Also, it probably did not metastasize yet either. I'm a religious guy so I won't touch on the prayer comment. 4. ...and by far the most important, if someone tells you they think they have a problem and need time off....you god damn give it to them. IT TAKES A REAL HUMAN BEING TO ADMIT THEY HAVE A PROBLEM. I have seen coke addicts, child abusers, women abusers, and alcoholics deny their problems to me in the hospital. Basketball isn't the entire world. STOP BEING AN IGNORANT PRICK AND LEARN ABOUT SOMETHING BEFORE YOU POST GARBAGE.
I never said it did. Royce has anxiety issues, I understand that, but he still could've been more upfront and handled the situation better.
Ok, now this whole thing is starting to make sense. -This is essentially an HR policy type of situation. There probably has not been very many if any cases like Royce's in the NBA thus far, so I can understand where he is coming from to some extent. -For instance, maybe you are an Iraq war veteran who cannot walk, and got hired on at a company. When you start your first day on the job, they made it aware to you that you will actually need to travel long distances on foot to lets say see customers or something like that. Now, you have already committed to the job, but you want to see how flexible they are with changing some HR policies for a disabled worker. Come back to the Royce White situation. Now that he has been handed an agenda for training camp, and is being told what to do on a daily basis, he's finding out that these policies are not written with people with his disability in mind for accomidations. Basically, he wants a written statement that states that essentially the rules don't apply to him, and you cannot fine me for this or that. At the end of the day, Im sure its mostly about money, and fines to be quite honest. Things like missing practices, being late etc. Even if this is the case, Royce has a point here. He's potentially going to get fined out the you know what if some of their policies apply to him as well. I might be speaking out of line on the fines, and the money issue, but it should be a legitimate concern for Royce IMO. That being said, I don't see the Rockets not agreeing to amend rules on his behalf due to his ailment if the NBA allows it. This will end up hurting their reputation tremendously if they do not at least bend over backwards to make this happen. However, if they decide NOT to add amendments to their contracts or HR type policies, they have every right to essentially fire Royce, and risk going to court with him over labor issues. Not sure if the NBPA would then step in, or if Royce would use his own power of attorney. Regardless, the Rockets have to seek some sort of agreement soon, or this could get nasty if legal matters are to be taken at a later date. -Since their is a well known attorney contributor on this site, I would love to hear his take on this situation, and what he sees happening next.... cough, cough... Bima.....
Not to be a stickler, but how exactly do you think he handled it? Please don't post on what he could have done. Please post on what he actually did
This is the problem that I see with White. He expects everyone to accommodate him and his anxiety when it is him that should be accommodating to the situation. What I see is a spoiled athlete who has had a lot of people falling over him to try to keep him happy and not make him anxious. Now he is expecting the Rockets to change the wAy they do things so he can avoid dealing with his issues head on. He is avoiding facing his problems and his doctors should not enable this dysfunctional behavior.
I'm still rooting for the guy to be successful. However, can't be anything but disappointed in the way he's handled this so far. And he's going to be competing against the likes of PPat, DMo, TJones and Chandler for minutes? Not a good start to what was already a difficult task ahead...
He didn't show up on the first day of work without letting the team know. I don't know about your employer, but I don't think I would have a job if I pulled that. It isn't professional, and for someone that will make more this year than most people will make in their lives, he should hold himself more accountable. That said, I hope he gets whatever help he needs to be healthy and he can rejoin the team, but IMO, that is strike 1 for Royce.
That is not how the world works. Veterans from the Iraq war are not able to dictate their work environment and neither is White. Having an anxiety disorder and expecting special rules for it is ridiculous and is counter therapeutic. Enabling avoidance is the worst way of dealing with an anxiety disorder.
This is not the case at all. Read my above post. More than likely, Royce was handed an agenda for training camp and there were things he was being told he must do (or he would be fined), and those actions are not something that is written with someone that has his disability in mind. There was no way that Royce could have known every single thing his job would entail just as you or I wouldn't truly understand our jobs until the first week on the job when we were actually placed in our cubes with out daily agenda in front of us. In that case, you go to HR and say I have a problem with this...what can you do about it. In most cases at work, your employer has policies in place for workers with disabilities... The NBA might not. I think could turn into a very big point of contention if the Rockets have to hand the matter over to the NBA and the NBPA.
Uh what? Ever herd of The Americans with Disabilities Act? It's the LAW to acomidate disabled workers in the Workplace. Please just walk away
Yeah, at least now we know what we are dealing with here with this guy. No point of going back and forth with him on anything.
To add on to my point above, losing a limb in Iraq and having an anxiety disorder are not the same thing. Employers do not need to create a low anxiety environment for any employee and they certainly don't for veterans with PTSD so why should they do it for White?
This is the sort of issue I really don't think anyone should take sides on without knowing more specifics. If White's demands are modest, I'd be inclined to take his side. If they're more radical, then not.
This is foolishness there needs to be more communication between both parties. The rockets knew exactly what type of investment they would be making when it came to Royce. Why were the necessary pre-cautions not made ahead of time.
