Im right behind you bro on that Online purchase! Been purchasing 2k online for 4 years with this year being the 4th!
mentioned it here before. machado and smith are not in the game. that's what i heard. i don't have the game to confirm
I normally don't like pirating at all and normally follow a policy of "I won't pirate games less than 3-4 years old", but in this instance, yeah, 2k can **** off. It's REALLY bad because they literally didn't mention the digital download until the very last minute, meaning that now we didn't get to pre-order the actual physical copy. Maybe I'll buy a legit copy later when prices are slashed, but I won't pay 30.
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Even if the product is subpar, what gives you justification to pirate the game? The bottomline is that piracy is wrong. You're playing a game for free that a team of people who spent thousands of hours developing a product for fans, just to have these "fans" essentially steal it from them. It bothers me to see people who download paid video games for free and do so on some kind of moral high ground. You have no reason to be prideful about taking a product you had no right to take from developers who worked hard to make it.
Went up to the Wal-Mart in my town (only place that sells games here) and they didn't have it. Didn't feel like driving to the next city just to buy it, so I decided to buy it on Playstation Network and download it. This **** is taking forever.
Said this earlier, but while I don't really consider piracy "wrong" per se (especially in this case when 2K probably didn't put much effort into this), it won't really help the situation. You guys are just reinforcing what 2K probably thinks already (right or wrong), and just guaranteeing that future releases will be as bad or worse (if they even exist). Given how mad you guys are, I don't even know why you bother playing the game. What you should do is buy one of that amazing games (e.g., Witcher 2) from another developer who actually gives a crap about their PC userbase. That might actually show 2K that their assumptions are wrong. Then they'll realize if they actually want to sell copies on the PC, they'll have to put in some effort and put out a quality release. And piracy won't have anything to do with it. Plus, as I said earlier, I wouldn't be surprised if the game sells for <$10 in a few months, if 2K12 is any indication. You could pay practically nothing (with 2K getting practically nothing), and you avoid giving 2K a reason to blame piracy. Boycott > piracy
I view piracy and stealing as two different things. Stealing = taking something away from someone else. Piracy = making an illegal copy of software (keyword being copy). Not to say piracy is always OK (especially when people who would 100% buy a game pirate it instead), but just saying there is a slight difference IMO. Of course, we can also have a philosophical debate about "right and wrong," but I won't go there. Context is more relevant to me, as are the actual consequences of these actions. As I said, pirating this game won't really help matters any, so no point in doing it IMO. In some cases, I tend to not care so much whether people pirate a game. It was alluded to earlier, but if a game is no longer being distributed (or no longer being reasonably distributed), it is hard to tell people not to pirate a game. See System Shock 2 or something along those lines. Same for piracy overseas too I guess.
What I would love is for everyone to boycott the console versions because that is what 2K is trying to do here. Mess the PC version up so badly that they can force everyone to either get it for the console or pirate it. Then afterwards they can go to their shareholders and blame piracy for dwindling PC purchases and then get rid of the PC port altogether. They don't care about PC users in the first place. THEY ARE TRYING to phase us out. ****ing consoles are the worst thing that happened to gaming. Just goes to show that Americans prefer convenience > quality. I hate corporations. I hate monopolies. NBA Live acting as competition wouldn't have changed that since EA is also attempting to phase PC games out as well from their sports titles. This is ridiculous. The modding sites for NBA2K are furious right now as well.
Well, I wouldn't mind that either (especially since I don't care for the effort they put into these games...I'm sometimes pissed that I paid $10-$20, can't imagine paying $60+). But I doubt that is their true intentions. Or if it is, it is an about face from a few years ago. They haven't always provided a PC port, and I'm actually surprised they've continued to do it. As you mentioned, it isn't exactly standard for these types of games. I figured they just started doing it because a PC port is very cheap to make (especially when you don't actually have to implement certain features or fix bugs), and they can get some extra money from doing it. Someone can start making a PC sim bball game (no NBA license of course), put some effort into it, and you guys can all support that 100% (I probably would). Come on Kickstarter.
I'd be surprised if 2K spent more than 10 hours porting this game over to the PC. They cut out EVERYTHING. No all-star weekend, no mycareer closet, no virtual currency, no myteam. Everything they have been marketing for the console versions is completely devoid from the PC port. Moral high ground my ass, I have not once been prideful of pirating 2K. I've been on people's asses for pirating the game in this thread. But when 2K pulls out some **** like this then they COMPLETELY lose my support. They can go **** themselves. I just want to play the game.
What I always do when I get a new 2K game is I try to play all fast and arcade-y and get drilled by the lowliest of teams. But then I realize this is a sim and not nba jam. Once I play real, smart basketball, everything is fine, haha!
Its so ridiculously unfair of 2K. Seriously, when they announced that everything was cut from 2K's PC port? Nobody was complaining. "OK, well at least we still have a strong modder base." Everyone in the PC community was just happy that they were even porting the barebones completely watered down version of the console game.
