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[Hypothetical] World War Three

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by HR Dept, Sep 28, 2012.

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    Disagree. Because of the commonality of language, law and religion, muslims will band together as an "us" against "them" mentality. Nuclear war inevitably will follow.

    BTW, unless you are a trained psychologist or psychiatrist, you should refrain from providing diagnosis.
     
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    Following on my post above I think WWWIII is unlikely but the most plausible way I think it could happen would involve either involve a proxy war between the US and Europe versus China and Russia where the trigger was the Middle East or between China, Russia and Pakistan versus India, US, Western Europe, Japan and ASEAN nations with the trigger being Kashmir.

    In the first situation the peace treaty between Egypt and Israel collapses and fighting breaks out between them. Several of the poorer Islamic states in the region align themselves with Egypt and they are armed and funded by the PRC and Russia. Saudi Arabia and the Emirates remain neutral initially. Iran seeing an opportunity to both attack Israel and build up its own power directs Hezbollah to attack Israel while also arming Shiite groups in the region under the banner of attacking Israel. The Saudis and Emirates start cracking heavily down on their own Shiite groups and Iran. The PRC and Russia arms and funds Iran while the US arms and funds Saudis. In North Africa Sudan moves to recapture South Sudan ending up destabilizing all of North Africa so fighting spreads from Somalia to Algeria with the various powers (US, Russia, and PRC) supporting various factions. The instability in North Africa causes a flood of refugees across the Mediterranean and down south into countries like Kenya drawing in European countries. France and other Euro countries send troops to former colonies to try to stabilize things and halt the flood of refugees.

    In the second scenario fighting breaks out between Indian and Pakistan over Kashmir. The PRC arms Pakistan while also pressing India in disputed territory in the Himalayas. At the same time the fighting destabilizes Central Asia in the former Soviet Republics so Russia moves to reassert control over those countries. Japan and ASEAN countries with territorial disputes with the PRC move to strengthen their positions in the SOuth China Sea the PRC responds militarily. The US moves to militarily support pro-Western countries among the former Soviet states while also moving to back Japan and ASEAN countries against the PRC in the South China Seas. Europe dealing with refugees fleeing from Central Asia and the Caucasus and fearing Russia aggression moves against Russia in Eastern Europe leading to a response from Russia in the Baltic states and Poland.
     
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    This shows your lack of knowledge of the Muslim world. While Arabic is the language of the Quran most Muslims don't speak Arabic. Iranians speak Persian. There are also wide cultural differences between Muslims and someone living in Tunis is very different from someone living in Karachi. For that matter there are wide cultural differences between even Arabs. The culture of Dubai is very different than the culture of Cairo even though both are predominately Arab and Sunni.
    Touched a nerve did I. If you really believe that Muslims will band together to fight a nuclear war against the US is paranoid. It is as paranoid than a Muslim believing that the West is out to wipe out Islam.
     
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    Not a nerve, just opinion. If you are not a lawyer, you shouldn't provide legal advice and opinions. If you are not an electrician, you shouldn't tell people how to wire a house. If you are not a plumber, ... well you get the drift.

    I agree that there are differences among the Arab cultures, but there are many uniting similarities. Australians are different from the English are different from U.S. citizens are different from Canadians are different from French are different from Germans ... but there is a commonality of law and culture.

    The former Soviet states and the Chinese are sane, logical peoples. They would not risk their cultures and civilization despite being opportunistic when looking to exploit a weak president like Obama.

    With the exception of the super rich Arab nobility, the general populace has a demonstrated viewpoint that they really have nothing to lose, which makes them a tinderbox waiting for a match.
     
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    Welp, shut down the D&D.
     
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    You do realize the ME has like 10% of the world Muslim population?

    What commonality of language are you talking about? I don't speak Arabic, would never want to live under Sharia law either.
     
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    With the discovery of huge natural gas reserves due to fracking technology, the ME will soon be irrelevant.

    Greece is our biggest threat once they leave the Euro.
     
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    This though is not supported by history. We have never fought a war with Australia, haven't with England in 200 years and only fought with Canada when it was part of France. In the Muslim world just in recent history several wars have been fought between Muslim countries and groups. Sunni and Shiites have been at each others throats for centuries. Even Sunnis have fought each other recently, consider the Sunni Awakening in Iraq when Sunni tribes got sick of Al Qeada and turned their guns on Al Qaeda instead of the US. If the Muslim world was so easily united OBL would've succeeded already with establishing a new Caliphate but instead he was hounded out of several Muslim and Arab countries and only found shelter in a failed state and was driven out of there by the US aligned with the Muslim forces of the Northern Alliance.

    This makes no sense. While OBL was sheltered in Pakistan, likely with help of many in the Pakistani military, and Pakistanis are angry about the mission to get him you don't see the Pakistanis even threatening to loose their nukes on the US, even though such a mission is technically an act of war. In the last 10 years the US has invaded not just one but two Islamic countries, has directly or indirectly killed at least tens of thousands of Muslims yet you don't see any Muslim country actually declaring war on the US. You see protests in the streets acts of terrorism by non-state actors but no actually serious move to take on the US.
     

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