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2012 Presidential Election: Romney vs. Obama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. Invisible Fan

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    More sad about our nations politics than angry.

    Are you calm, friend?
     
  2. Carl Herrera

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    Speaking of lunatics, bigots and idiots...
     
  3. QdoubleA

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    Voter fraud caught on tape.

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  4. A_3PO

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    538 now has the chances at 81.9%/18.1% for Obama. That's the highest I can remember. Probably because he's now concluded any deterioration of the post-convention bounce Obama received would have happened by now.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    One reason Romney may be taking such a hit is that people have spotted their campaign's lies, and Romney doesn't address the issue. Now he's lying about having addressed the inaccuracies.

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  6. Baqui99

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    Here's my brool story. Was in Oxford a couple of weeks ago for Texas-Ole Miss. Started chatting with some nice Ole Miss folks at the bar Friday night. . These people were staunch conservatives. Long story short, told them I live in SF, and the conversation turned to politics.

    They straight up said they don't like Obama but they don't trust Romney. Two of them said they'll be sitting this election out, and the others said f it they'll vote for Obama.
     
  7. DonnyMost

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    This is the common refrain I'm hearing too. Romney is pulling in nothing but the "anybody but Obama" vote. Same trap the Democrats fell into in 2004. You cannot win an election when your main message is "I'm not that guy!".
     
  8. mc mark

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    Brutal new ad from Obama today.

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  9. Rashmon

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    I think what has really been exposed by Romney's staggering incompetence at running a campaign is that his vaunted "management & business acumen" are over rated and his success had more to do with his "silver-spoon-in-mouth" connections than with his real ability.
     
  10. rimrocker

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    I'm seeing many fewer Romney/Ryan bumper stickers and yard signs than 4 years ago for McCain.
     
  11. CometsWin

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    I actually saw one the other day. The first one I've seen.
     
  12. Raven

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    This is crass, but Obama has the minority vote wrapped up. The commercial should have featured more White working class Americans. If Democrats can cut into that voting block, not only will Romney lose, but we can pick up some seats in the House and Senate, and that will benefit all Americans regardless of ethnicity.
     
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    the plural of anecdote is not data.
     
  14. NewRoxFan

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    Though unfair, sometimes the politician should avoid doing things that photograph poorly...

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  15. GladiatoRowdy

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    Unfortunately for Romney, the data is even worse for him than the anecdote to which you were referring.
     
  16. vlaurelio

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    I am not sure exactly how much Romney benefited from family connections to build Bain capital but he did give away most of his inheritance. Romney isn't GW Bush who relied heavily on his father for business connections, which for the most part he didn't do a good job at, and also political connections.
     
  18. mc mark

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    slip slippin' away....


    Goodbye, Columbus: Why top Ohio Republicans think Romney has lost the state

    COLUMBUS, Ohio – There are only two plausible explanations for what is going on this week in this swing state central to virtually all Mitt Romney’s victory strategies.

    Either many top Ohio Republicans are in the grips of the worst panic attack since an Orson Welles 1938 radio drama convinced thousands that the earth was under attack by Martians. Or more likely, judging from the comments of these GOP insiders, Romney’s hopes of carrying Ohio are fast dwindling to something like the odds of winning the Powerball jackpot.

    Presidential candidates have rebounded from downbeat polls before, especially when we are still five weeks from Election Day. So Romney’s problem is not just the recent Ohio surveys that show him losing to Barack Obama by as many as 10 percentage points. Instead, what is striking is the funereal interpretation that downcast Ohio Republicans derive from these numbers. Maybe Romney isn’t down by 10 points, they argue, but the GOP presidential nominee seems destined to lose by a solid 5 points – and in closely divided Ohio that represents a loss of nearly landslide proportions. (That would mean that Obama would slightly improve his 2008 victory margin against John McCain.)
     
  19. mc mark

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    No republican has ever won the White House without Ohio.
     
  20. rocketsjudoka

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    I get the feeling that what is tipping Ohio to Obama is GM's success. I think even if Romney ran a better campaign he would still be in trouble in Ohio since he opposed the auto bailout in a state where it the auto industry is a big employer.
     

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