Obama administration drug policy advisor: the case against legalizing mar1juana

The white house also forgot to add that mar1juana can be transitioned into energy which can produce a substance on the same level as oil. Big oil companies pay big big money to keep mar1juana illegal. Right before mar1juana became illegal, the research was on the verge of producing one of the most cleanest burning forms of energy.

And our founding fathers of this nation cultivated mar1juana. To not support mar1juana is UNAMERICAN

 

I would like to see the studies with prescription medicines and how it affects a persons IQ.

I'm pretty sure all the pills prescribed is much worse on memory retainment.

 

Who the hell cares whats physically harmful or makes one dependant.

The case could be made refined sugars are worse for you than even mar1juana and are probably more addictive.

Its all about some social stigma and its not the government's role to mandate social stigma just as its not their role to redistribute wealth.

Republicans that are against mar1juana yet fight for lack of government control and regulation just seem silly.

 

Going down the physical harm and dependance route we'll all end up eating brussel sprouts all day.

If I want a cheeseburger, a huge coke and some mary jane and to be able to have a drink at an establishment at 4 am I should be allowed to. As long as i don't get behind the wheel and harm anyone else in which case I should face the punishment if I do.

Freedom!!

 

You don't seem to know much about facts related to drug abuse. MDMA is not particularly dangerous as long as you take care to keep from getting dehydrated. The research (like that performed by Nutt and others) bears out this fact just as it bears out that heroin is more physically addictive and harmful than cocaine. Don't get me wrong, cocaine can be a killer, but heroin is much more dangerous.

 

BTW, "decriminalization" keeps all of the harmful consequences of prohibition (violence, products of unknown purity, criminalization of manufacture and sale which can be discriminatory in enforcement) while reaping none of the benefits of a regulated system (research, taxation, oversight).

Here's what I would do...

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=63243

 

Hemp seed oil can be refined in your garage to run existing diesel engines, in fact the diesel engine was designed to run on hemp seed oil...

http://www.crrh.org/cannabis/industrial.html

http://rense.com/general67/FORD.HTM

http://www.fuelandfiber.com/Archive/News/Legalize/BioDemo/hempcar/hempcar.html

 

Read the articles.

 

good thread.I play Devil's advocate always on potthreads to remind those that even under decriminalization or full out legalization, there will still be violence attached to the illicit and mostly harmless weed.

whether it is inner city gang violence or cartels, which exist still in California to take advantage of medical mj $ opportunities. people will always look to cash in in on it regardless, IMO.

also, young people will still want to get their hands on it, and they will.

that being said, they need to stop locking up Americans for smoking pot.

but still, driving with it and under the influence of it is a bad idea and shouldn't be brushed under the carpet.

full disclosure- I have a criminal record from the smallest of mar1juana infractions- in Texas and NYC, and I never know when it will come up on a job application background check.

I have tried my best to stop smoking habitually and I am having great success.

ps founding fathers grew hemp, they didn't cultivate mar1juana. there is a difference.

 

I will engage in debate rather than take your bait in this what I called a good thread.

I wasn't aware of his drug use when I defended him. but I do feel for people who used and got caught vs. people who used and didn't get caught, like Trayvon Martin- he was killed with in it his system.

did he have a criminal record? I wasn't aware.

all I know is the last three Presidents of The United States admitted using the herb and the only difference is that they weren't caught for it.

how do you think that would look in a presidential candidate's record?

it's baloney.

nice try to bait me with a Trayvon reference though in a thread about Pot.

 

Ever had to bury somebody killed by a drunk driver? What about the costs associated with prosecuting DWI?

Ever had to care for a baby born after fetal alcohol syndrome? Ever had to care for somebody with alcohol related liver failure or end stage alcoholism?

These things are all very real and very expensive.

 

A hemp field grown to maturity in 1 year can provide enough fiber to create building materials for the average new home. Trees take at least 15.


To add, the hemp material gets stronger with age, whereas, wood planks tend to decay

 

Yea the amount of money we spend putting non violent offenders in jail is ridiculous. I know kids who are really good students, smoke it recreational who have been arrested for possesion and essentially they have trouble contributing to society bc of that big mark on their record when they are otherwise clean.

You legalize it and make it store bought and regulated then you control what age gets it just like alcohol and smoking. I dont think the corner drug dealers are worried about age when they sell. You take money out of cartles hands, does it solves it? no but does it hurt them big, yes! as well as the street violence. And regulating the product and age makes it in the right hands

just look at amsterdam in terms of marijauna. Its legal thater,e most of the population doesn't smoke. There aren't mar1juana drug related crime as its all regulated in stores.

On top of that, alcohol etc kills more , tabacco kills more is MORE addicting. Go around stoners and go around alcoholics, youll see who is more likely to kill or hurt people recklessly.

money, safety, etc and comparasions to other legal drugs, its just a damn shame.

If those health reasons are why they are banning it they mine as well ban mcdonalds, cigarettes, alcohol, etc.

 

Oil is one of the most energy dense materials known to man. Weed, vegetables etc just don't have the same energy density. Basic thermodynamics will tell you that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density

 

How are we going to catch drivers that are clearly too high?

Newbies who get too high and cant control the high shouldnt be driving.

Maybe a simple short term memory test in the event of a stop?

A saliva test is bunk bc the person couldve used in the past 24 hrs and not be high anymore, yet dropped something in the car which caused a swerve. He wasnt high, just a little careless.


Driving high and in control is perfectly fine. But most people cant control their high at first so we need a system

 

I would assume they already have a way to test if you're under the influence while driving, I would imagine the trained eye could spot someone who's high.