WTF has SA ever accomplished in his life anyway? Aside from embarrassing black people with an updated version of a minstrel show in which he personifies every ugly stereotype about black males, that is?
I hate SAS as much as the next guy, but c'mon... He's the figurehead of ESPN and there are a LOT of people that think his opinions matter. He's using his schtick to get noticed and it's worked. Sure it may perpetuate a stereotype (to some degree), but so do Jackie Chan and Jet Li. I don't care about his opinion, but to say he's accomplished nothing is narrow minded.
are you serious? Kwame deserves all the criticism in the world! do you really want to compare Kwame to Lin? lol. horrible example. besides, SAS can't just criticize all non-blacks without throwing in a couple of blacks in the mix. that would be too obvious and he knows it. Kwame was the fall guy. gtfo
Which is a sad reminder of just how dumbed down the general populace is. And you're right, SA has accomplished a lot. He's done a great job of helping white bigots find a convenient example of the idiotic angry black male stereotype "IRL." But like I said, SA is getting paid and being a media figure surely stokes his ego. But the price is tremendous. He literally sets back race relations 40 years with his stupid "crazy loud black man" schtick.
LOL, it just shows you the level of idiocy the haters are willing to stoop to to try to prop up a baseless argument. F'in' haters!
Yeah, just ONE game where he had 9 turnovers. Check the stats. And now you’re changing it to multiple games of 8-9 TOs. Other players have also had multiple games of 7-9 TOs. So, okay, what’s the big deal? When did they occur – at the beginning or the end of the season? That’s right, right at the beginning when he became a starter. Did he improve and limit his TOs over the course of the season? Yes, he did. Let’s use your logic to talk briefly about other players’ turnovers this past season. DWill had 5 or more TOs 13 times out of the first 26 games. The same as Lin - but they occurred during DWill’s 8th season, while Lin’s occurred during essentially his rookie year. In DWill’s first 5 game starts, he had multiple games where he had 6 TOs per game. As well, 5 out of a 6 game stretch, he had 5 or more TOs in each of them. He also averaged more TOs than Lin this past season. I guess I should go on the Nets forum and point out these TOs to all the Nets fans since it such a major flaw that this elite veteran PG has – so ridiculous, so unacceptable. How do you think the posters will react to my comments? Westbrook had 5 or more turnovers 11 times out of the first 26 games. He had 5 straight games where he had more than 5 turnovers in each one (1 game: 5 TOs; 2 games: 6 TOs; 2 games: 7 TOs). And 8 out of a 9 game stretch, he had more than 5 TOs per game. Westbrook averaged the same amount of TOs as Lin this past season. As a 4th year player, Westbrook shouldn’t have such flaws. Let’s relegate him to the back-up role. Oh wait, he did learn to decrease his TOs over the course of the season. Should I go on the OKC’s forum at this time and point it out anyway? Wall had 5 or more TOs in 6 out of an 8 game stretch (3 games: 5 TOs; 3 games: 7 TOs). He also has had multiple 7-9 TO games. Wall averaged more TOs than Lin last season. As for Irving, toward the end of the season, he had 5 or more TOs in 5 out of a 6 game stretch. He too has had multiple 7-8 TO games. So, it seems that Irving has actually regressed a bit. Utterly ridiculous and unacceptable for #1 draft picks. So, why do people constantly talk about their potential and all their positive qualities instead of pointing out these negatives? Maybe, it’s because they’re young and going to improve. And maybe, it’s because TOs – while not necessarily good - are an inherent part of the game. Or perhaps, there’s a double standard. Sidestep describes it quite well:
Further to my above, if you really understand basketball and read what others and I have posted, then you would understand the context of why turnovers occur (i.e., lack of experience, ball handling time, type of defense and playing style). Furthermore, it doesn’t seem apparent that you understand how some of Lin’s TOs happened, especially during that stretch of games at the beginning that you referenced. I suspect you didn’t watch many of Lin’s games and are simply opining based on what you’ve read. A big reason that contributed to his turnovers – coupled with being inexperienced and having an aggressive style of play - was the type of defense that was used on him. As you know during Linsanity, Lin became the focus and target of teams. They applied on-the-ball pressure and used zone defense – both of which are not often used in regular season games (except by a few teams – as they’re primarily used during the playoffs). Did you check out CP3’s and Parker’s TOs stats in the playoffs when such type of ball pressure and defense were used? Certainly, even as elite ball handlers, under such circumstances, they too weren’t immune to TOs. So, again, if you understand the context under which TOs occur, why would you focus on Lin’s turnovers at the beginning of the season when you could talk about his improvements and decreased turnovers toward the end of the season? Again, how relevant is it to talk about his skills/abilities earlier on in the season when you could talk about his development and improved skills/abilities as of now? Lastly, if you insist you’re not a hater, why would you distort/exaggerate the stats and make a point of noting the few games where a player has had a higher than normal amount of TOs – most good to elite PGs will have games where they have a higher number than usual. What’s your point in doing this? You can’t use the stats from some or select games to make generalizations and to substantiate your argument. And if you’re going to try to do this, then you should be consistent. You should equally make the same generalizations about other PGs. The reason why you are getting so many reactions from the posters here is because your reasoning is suspect or at the very least problematic. If I took the stats that I laid out above about the other PGs and posted them to their respective forums, without a doubt, I believe that I would get called a hater and, overall, receive a less than positive response from most, if not all, members.
There really seems to be some stigma attached to being Asian and a fan of Yao or Lin. Was talking to a German player at the gym about the nba, 'yeah I go for the mavs duh' but there seems to be some sort of 'of course you go for Yao/Lin' attitude against Asians even if they have been the most ardent of supporters. People are drawn to basketball for a variety of reasons
Just wait until Shump-shump is back from injury, we will be rolling to the playoffs! err.. Wait... Is this the Knicks forum?
I dont care how much lin had the ball, getting anywhere over 5 turnovers for a pg is bad. 7-9 is just atrocious. Dragic didnt get those numbers when he first started. and yea lin improved as he went on but not for a long stretch, he still had a couple of 6-7 turnover games. he got injured right after that. i didnt distort or exaggerate his numbers. As a starter, which is all i care about, he average 4.7 turnovers a game. I include the stretch were he had all those turnovers because those were the games where he played his best games. And all because he gets a lot of turnovers doesnt make him a bad player. I never said that, despite people trying to paint me as a hater. I think he has the potential to be a solid starter in this league, maybe not a all star, but definitely a good player. I dont think he is quite there yet, but it will be interesting to see if he can. I only brought up this flaw in his game because people were killing SAS for saying that New York shouldnt match the Rockets offer. SAS was simply pointing out the fact that the way the rockets structured that offer, made it impossible for New York to match. They would have had to take on $15 million in his 3rd year which would have given that team no room to work with in developing a squad with depth. What is so wrong with that opinion? Of course in a perfect world, SAS would of wanted NY to match lin's contract offer. As an unbiased Rockets fan first, and not a "lin only fan", I just would have rather kept one of lowry or dragic who are proven players in this league. And who are both better than lin now.
Kwame does not deserve the criticism, its not his fault he is crap - thats all on the team n gm that took him. I only brought up that one little example to show that he criticizes players of all races. And its not like he criticizes lin that much. I have heard SAS say a lot of good things about him. All im trying to say is all because an asian player gets criticized for his game doesnt mean the critic is a racist. Cause we all can agree his game isnt flawless. Not even Kobes game is flawless.
Of course you don't care how much Lin had the ball: you're a hater. No, you only point out the negatives, because....you're a hater! Of course you don't think Lin is a bad player, you only point out that you THINK his TO's are bad, while never mentioning any positives, because...you're a bitter hater. And of course you're defending SA. It's because....YOU'RE BLACK! Your screen name was invented to try to throw us off the scent. But of course your massive resentment at anyone not BLACK shows us your "true colors."
