Just because my opinions don't match up with your opinions means that I'm putting my foot in my mouth? Baseless statement without substance. Thanks for coming.
We don't know what the course contained in its full entirety, so I can't pass judgement. What I can say is that I agree with the principle of free speech, that I am against the killing of civilians to achieve military or political goals and that the radical elements of Islamic doctrine should be taught to military personnel so that they can get a better understanding of how to deal with the enemy abroad. Do you sir believe that certain Imams and Islamists that support terrorist orginisations, call for the destruction of Israel and the Jews, as well as sharia law to be implemented into western countries should also be treated the same way as U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel Matthew Dooley and his class? What punishments or sanctions do these people deserve? Should madrasahs that teach children about non Muslims being kufar as well as what could be considered violent or hate speech be shut down?
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1) The Thomas More Law Center is full of ill-minded and un-Christianlike nutbags that could better use their talents through charitable causes than sometimes misguided or politically subversive lawsuits. 2) You have a clear disconnect on the matter, which many people are inferring as your thoughts. Let's see...from that pic, the instructor is teaching that "all Muslims are the enemy" and obliterating the cultural equivalent to your Jerusalem as an ultimate endgame. You consider that instructor's expulsion as "bowing down to the slightest pressure", so you don't think it's such a bad idea or entirely offensive at all. That dig about the POTUS indicates redblog, possibly FoxNews messaging and framing. Uhhh, thanks for admiring our country. Please watch Springer instead?
Conspiracy theories, not enough evidence, what a joke...blah blah blah. (see the next post below for a classic example... )
LOL! yes, CAIR is trying to "destroy the miserable houses of the west" from within while working to establish an Islamic state that will rule the world. What a joke.
You have not responded to any of the facts with facts. Do you deny that there are links between CAIR and Hamas?
This shows you don't understand the context of this issue. This isn't about free speech as Lt. Col. Dooley has his full free speech rights but about the military deciding what it wants to teach in its own training. The military already has many proscriptions on free speech for its members, such as political campaigning while in uniform, public criticism of command decisions and fellow officers while on duty. Military officers though while out of uniform and / or out of the service though have all of the free speech rights of anyone else and Dooley can say whatever he wants about Islam and Muslims in other context and if some other school wants him to teach a course about that he could. Madrasahs in the US are free to teach what they want and are free to teach what they want under free speech and separation of church and state. Other individuals are free to criticize what those schools may be teaching. That said if a Madrasah was found receiving government money I would argue that they shouldn't under separation and state.
In case this wasn't clear, I think the video is inappropriate - as far as the facts are known to me - and should under no circumstances be used in teaching.
To the terrorist operations of Hamas? Yes, I do. A propaganda video isn't what I would call facts, and it deserves no response other than a good laugh because that's all it's worth.
I see you have nothing to offer and would rather ignore the facts. Always convenient to attack the source when you prefer to close your eyes to the truth. Are you claiming that the CAIR guy who said he was a supporter of Hamas and Hizbollah did not actually say that in the video? In 2009 a judge confirmed the Justice Department’s decision to name CAIR as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation conspiracy to smuggle funds to HAMAS, which is a jihadi affiliate of the Egypt-based brotherhood. Five men in the smuggling ring were sentenced to jail in 2009, including two who were given 65-year sentences. Five current or former CAIR employees have been jailed or deported for terror-related offenses. http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/12/justice-dept-inspector-general-investigates-fbi-cair-ties/ It's also funny how you seem to think there are two Hamas.
That's not what I believe about Hamas. CAIR like any organization has had some bad seeds. Just like political parties have had bad members in it. But it's not really funny. What's funny is you posting the video about CAIR being on a secret mission to destroy America and the west from within in order to complete the Islamic state that will rule the world. Yes, ATW good video. They are Darth Vader and the storm troopers bent on world domination. LOL! How can you post that video and expect anything other than laughter?
Once again, trying to attack the source rather than addressing the facts - the way a coward operates. A co-founder is not "some bad seed", as much as you would downplay it. Furthermore, critics point to a statement made by Omar Ahmad (a joint founder of CAIR) in 1998 in which he said that Muslim Americans "have a duty to deliver the message of Islam" and that "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_American–Islamic_Relations#Criticism What's so funny about this? A co-founder explicitly stated that this is the goal. It's not even "secret". Just because you are blind to it, or welcome it, doesn't mean it's not a fact.
Regarding the unindicted "co-conspirator" charge against CAIR and other Muslim organizations in the US: http://www.nysun.com/national/islamic-groups-named-in-hamas-funding-case/55778/
And yet you complained that the US military dropped it in response to complaints. Hell no. They should get a hell of a lot worse than being relieved of their teaching duties. Depends on what you're talking about. Supporting terrorist organizations probably would be jail, at the minimum. Wanting Sharia law should probably just be ignored - free speech and free opinion are fine. I don't think schools teaching hate or violence would pass muster with basic US Dept of Education guidelines, so any that are here probably should be shut down.
When the messenger is the video that claims CAIR's objective is to destroy America and Western civilization from within while working to establish an Islamic state that will rule the world, then I'll laugh at it. That's not really an attack, that's me giving the source the credibility it deserves and having some entertainment. Becoming the "dominant faith" in America is merely talking about the faith. That is no big deal at all. Christian evangelists wish to spread Christianity just as these Muslims wish to spread Islam. That's different than wishing to take over the nation, and and the World which is what the video proclaimed, and the video showed the spooky "secret" document written in Arabic to show how it was their plan to destroy the nation from within. Anyone familiar with CAIR's outreach programs, and works would find it laughable.
Laughable interpretation. So we have seen you act like Hamas is not a terrorist organization by randomly splitting up Hamas in two and saying that CAIR could only have been linked to the "non-terrorist part". Then you say that them wanting to be dominant and not equal to other faiths (which implies that they would have less rights) is no big deal.
