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Serena Williams vs. Victoria Azarenka (no homo).. but what a MATCH

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by SkyrimOwnsAll, Sep 9, 2012.

  1. esteban

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    SkyrimOwnsAll is an Obama voter, I just know it.
     
  2. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    my parents are far from Obama voters


    what if i said i hated Jeremy Lin, Yao Ming, and Li Na.... 3 random athletes, but would that make me a racist

    what is the difference from another race hating Cam Newton, Serena Williams, and Kobe Bryant. You see what i just did
     
  3. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    Julian Castro will get the nod in 2016 dont worry

    also my political choice is no concern of yours
     
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    You sir are indeed a troll.
     
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    That face....

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    That's a man, man!
     
  6. EssTooKayTD

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    All about Gabriela Sabatini mengz. hahaha

    I can't quite label Serena as the greatest of all time in women's tennis. Yeah, maybe I'm old school, but back in the day, you watched women's tennis b/c they had a lot of good players. It ain't like that (to me) anymore. Maybe I just don't recognize as many names.

    http://tennis.quickfound.net/history/wta_top_20_1989-present.html

    Scroll right for more recent years. I mean look at all those immediately recognizable names during and shortly following Graf's years. I'm disregarding the rankings, just looking at the competition.
     
  7. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    P4P Serena beats them all


    I admit Federer is the GOAT in mens tennis
     
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  9. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    Online Blackface... where i have seen this before.. ghost youtube accounts, avatars, yahoo profiles.. thats been played out since 2010

    As Serena being the GOAT in the WTA

    P4P can be used in a multitude of ways not just for boxing

    I basically used P4P in an "era" stance, Put a "focused" Serena in any era, and she would dominate any female tennis player... WHICH IS TRUE

    The players are just flat out better in this era, the experts agree, So Serena is beating players than Steffi, BJK, or MC did

    Who knows in a few years their maybe better player than Serena on the Womens side, just like their could be a better player than Pele, Tiger,Jordan, Gretzky, or Ruth. You never know what the future holds

    When i admit that whites are the GOAT at a particular sport, no troll GIFS, or mocking, but when i say that an black person is.. then the mocking begins. It comes with the territory

    No trolling just speaking the truth

    race card removed
     
  10. david_rocket

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    Not really,

    nobody is going to mock when you say black athletes are the GOAT in football in these positions: WR, RB, LB, DE, etc.

    If you say Bolt or Carl Lewis are the GOAT in their sport, nobody is going to mock you.

    Nobody is going to mock you if you put or 4 black players in the top 5 in NBA.

    nobody would mock you if you said Pele is the GOAT in soccer.

    nobody will mock saying: Olajuwon, Moses Malone, Sampson, Drexler, etc are some of the best players in Rockets History.

    Tiger Woods is still considered among the best players in the history of Golf.

    we are discussing about Serena, we dont care what race she is, we are discussing about her playing tennis, and we dont think she is the best player of all-time. I would put her 6-8 of all-time.
     
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    Pretty accurate assessment, and great post. The race stuff is just stupid.
     
  12. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    is that a Tennis Player period or just womens player, their are not 3 WTA players in the history of womens tennis better than a prime Serena, let alone 5 or 6

    Tiger Woods is the GOAT in Golf, i used a previous posters use of his stats to justify his claims as to why Steffi Graf was better than Serena, and he started by using weeks at #1.. which is a good example. But then why doesnt the same apply to Woods, who not only has that stat but he has more stats and records to back up his GOAT status over Jack. Also Steffi doesnt have the most GS Single Titles.. Margret Court does with 24.. see what i mean

    Roger Federer could have retired at 13 majors and been seen as the male tennis GOAT in my eyes
     
  13. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    Phil Ivey is the greatest Poker Player Ever, Shaun White best winter boarder ever, Kelly Slater is the GOAT in surfing


    Serena is the greatest because if you put her in any era at her peak, she would destroy any player


    The players of today are better than yesteryear... WAY better, because they bring POWER.. which was started by Monica Seles, then enhanced through the Williams Sisters, and many European coaches are modeling their young female tennis players after the Williams Sisters, Sharapova even got her "yell" patterned after Venus Williams. her father admitted after Sharapova beat Serena in the 2004 Wimby Final

    The USTA is still living in the past, "pushing" wont win you majors on the womens side, and defintely on the mens side
     
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    Serena is physically a specimen and would have been a handful for the all time greats, but it isn't all about how big, fast and strong you are.
     
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    Did you ever play tennis? You keep blaming the USTA, yet coaches are independent from USTA.
     
  16. AroundTheWorld

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    Nope. Wrong. You can repeat it 1000 times, and it is still wrong.

    Seles wasn't that much of a power player. She had an unusual style, but I'd say she was more about the angles with her two-handed playing style on both backhand and forehand than about power, despite all the grunting.

    I can't say much about Margaret Court, that was before my time, but her Grand Slam record is impressive.
     
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    Serena has beaten more #1 RANKED PLAYERS in history of tennis...

    and has the best shot ever on the womens side.... HER SERVE
     
  18. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    Seles before the unfateful stabbing was destroying poor Steffi...

    Seles was a POWER player... she was the first of her kind. Learn the sport, If Steffi struggled with a young Seles, a prime Serena destroys her

    The only reason why Lebron cant be considered to GOAT, is because for his talent, and ability he choked A LOT. Still a great player

    But the great ones have the mental edge to overcome incredible odds, no other player would have come back in the US Open Final down 5-3 in the deciding set againist Vika the #1 ranked player in the world, and who had won something like 29 straight hard-court matches. Serena is past her prime, but like MJ can beat the young lions with expiernce
     
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    That means she had not been consistent enough to be ranked #1 at the time she beat them. Obviously, you can "lead" this stat only if you are not #1. But maybe this flew over your head.

    Steffi Graf's forehand.
     
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    The record before the stabbing was 6-4 in favor of Steffi Graf - although I do remember that Seles had her number for a while at some Grand Slam tournaments in a row.

    How old are you, kid?
     

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