Please break down your vote. You can use this scheme: Frontcourt Backcourt Bench Offense Defense Chemistry (how do players fit on the court) Or just explain the main weaknesses / strengths that you think will determine the winner. Voters: all participants and VBG and IzakDavid13 as outside judges. Anyone else welcome as well, as long as you explain your vote. RedNation pg: Isiah Thomas sg: Joe Dumars sf: Rick Barry pf: Kevin Mchale C: Hakeem Olajuwon Bench: G:Tiny Archibald G: Dale Ellis F: Carmelo Anthony F:Chris Webber C: Otis Thorpe vs. Jamers PG - Jerry West SG - George Gervin SF - Larry Bird PF - Dirk Nowitzki C - Nate Thurmond Bench: PG - Kevin Johnson SG - Earl Monroe SF - Andre Iguodala PF - Willis Reed C - Robert Parish
As i said before, i have enough defense to slow down his FC.. Nate Thurmond will do great against hakeem.. All thurmond need to do in the whole freaking game is to stop hakeem, I got Reed(PF/C), Parish rotating against him. Dirk vs Mchale.. Mchale is better with his post moves while dirk is better at shooting outside shots.. I really don't think McHale will be able to keep up with Dirk.. Also, keeping Mchale out of the paint makes it better for my offense.. Jerry West, Larry Bird, Dirk, Reed led their teams to championship.. They are great leaders who share the ball and do their best for their teams, i don't think there will be chemistry problems along the way.. With Bird being a point-forward driving and dishing to best outside shooters of all time, Thurmond who's monster on the boards, West,The Iceman Gervin, Bird leading the fast break.. that will be awesome.. I think Bird will dominate Rick Barry on offense and defense.. He has noone to defend dirk and his backcourt is really bad on size.. thomas is like 6'1 nad dumars is 6'3.. I can do lineup of: PG - West, SG - Iggy, SF - Bird, PF - Reed, C - Thurmond.. that's more than enough defense right there.. As i said earlier, noone can defend my backcourt (Gervin, West, KJ, Earl the pearl) when im facing rednation's team.. Dumars is pretty solid, but i don't think his size is enough against my BC Finally, I have enough firepower off the bench.. this is my strength that rednation can't stop.. He has a decent bench, but i don't think I'll lose anything if some of my starters rest.. 4 out of 5 bench players are starters in the previous drafts.. Kevin Johnson ave. 20-11, Black Jesus (The Pearl) Monroe, Willis Reed, Iggy (for defense) and Parish a really good player for a really long time. His peak seems like it's a little underrated.. I mean, he average 18-11-2 with over 54% shooting.. that's an 11 year average...and he averaged more than 79 games a year.. I think i have great chance to win this matchup
thanks brah, you can make worse paragraph too.. We don't have enough paragraph lesson here in the Philippines :grin:
Frontcourt even. uh. close. I'd like McHale and Dirk both much better on the opposite teams. Backcourt even. I'd take Isiah over West, and Gervin over Dumars. Jamers gets points for size, Red for bringing together the Pistons backcourt. Bench Jamers. Not sure what Thorpe is doing there. However, i'm not sure that Willis Reed translates as a great PF in today's game. Point guards - about equal. Wing combination - similar. Bigs - similar in talent, edge to Jamers on toughness. Overall, a slight advantage to Jamers. Offense Red. Red has an edge in quickness and athleticism. His team is also very balanced in halfcourt. Jamers has scary shooting. Would love McHale on this team to take full advantage of all the space in the post. Clutchness factor is off the charts. Overall, Red, slightly. A more versatile offensive team. Defense Red. Hakeem is as good as it gets. McHale is mobile, extremely long, tough, I think he's pretty much perfect for Dirk defense. Only KG might make more sense for that. Imo, he'd do a better job defending Dirk than Dirk would on him. West over Isiah by a fairly big margin. But it will be hard to keep up with Isiah's speed. Dumars over Gervin, though it won't be easy for Dumars due to size disadvantage. Bird was a great, smart team defender and anticipated passes as well as anyone. Barry was a solid team defender as well, but a worse man defender. Overall, edge to Bird, but I don't see them slowing down each other much. Just not great individual defenders. Jamers seems to have a bit more defense off the bench. Overall, Red because of defensive advantage upfront. Chemistry Jamers. About the only 'chemistry' question mark i see: McHale is the 3rd or 4th most gifted offensive player on this team. And he's a bit too much of a black hole for the 3rd/4th option, especially next to a dominant low post center. Both teams are very well built though. They'd mesh together well. Again, would love to see Dirk and McHale swap teams here. Overall - Red in 7 very close games.
I had just typed out a detailed explanation for each decision, but my son bummed me as I was about to upload my trademark gif or Pic and I pressed that little blue arrow instead of post pic icon...lost it all!!! Frontcourt: RedNation Backcourt: Jamers Bench: RedNation Offense: Tied... Starters Jamers, include Bench RedNation. Defense: RedNation Chemistry: Toss of coin...Jamers gets the split decision. This would go 7 games, overtime in most. Jamers has the classic 'IzakDavid13' style team, that I love. RedNation has The Dream, with the Bad Boy Backcourt. But there can only be 1 winner... Game 7 overtime... RedNation down by 1 point... 5.3 seconds left... Isiah Thomas Drives... Shot misses! 0.4 on the clock!!! Spoiler Spoiler You know how this story ends... RedNation wins!!! :grin:
Think Jamer's bench is better because of defense, but like I mentioned in the draft thread...the stars of each team always play 40+ minutes in playoffs, it's not that your great defenders off the bench will play 15+ minutes each. If you play Iggy too much your scoring will suffer heavily. RedN's starting unit wins on defense with Isiah, Dumars, McHale, Hakeem and Rick Barry is not a bum, he wouldn't get destroyed by any means by Larry. Think it would be a close series, but in the end RedN wins because of the McHale/Hakeem duo and his better backcourt defense, feel like they are a better match.
then what's the point of drafting bench players when they don't matter at all? Next draft we should draft 5 players because bench players doesnt matter... when i play iggy, how does the offense suffer around these guys?.. I'm not saying they can be destroyed by bird.. what i'm saying is there is no decent defender who can guard him.. dumars is a midget.. 6'3 guarding taller guys.. size matters..
Bench: G:Tiny Archibald G: Dale Ellis F: Carmelo Anthony F:Chris Webber C: Otis Thorpe vs. Bench: PG - Kevin Johnson...I love this guy, but Tiny. SG - Earl Monroe SF - Andre Iguodala PF - Willis Reed C - Robert Parish Dale Ellis was a hands down, lights out scorer in his hey day. Whilst RedNation didn't have a Center on his bench, O.T. could handle himself. A prime Webber would be too much for Willis Reed. I thought that your team was awesome, this was literally a toss of the coin between the two. Hakeem was the tie breaker. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I think that not only do away with the bench (maybe only draft a 6th man), but every team play each other at least once. Top 8 teams go to finals.
I don't have television in my home, must stream it!!! Thinking of getting NFL League pass! Go TEXANS!!!
Yessir! Do they have american football in australia? Like are there organized leagues and such? Just curious.
Yesssssssssssss, it won't be on TV in denver so I have to stream it too, I HATE PEYTON MANNING! Btw IzakDavid, I sent you an e-mail yesterday.
