1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Terrence Jones: A lesser Howard

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by coachbadlee, Jul 14, 2012.

  1. tinman

    tinman 999999999
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    104,187
    Likes Received:
    47,050
    So you're a knowledgeable fan because you searched the internet and found information about a rigged playoff series? You win![/QUOTE]

    You don't know anything about the rockets. Everyone knows that.
     
  2. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    99,048
    Likes Received:
    48,884
    I read and grasp the concepts that are beyond words.....

    Even if you think he is not knowledgeable you could inform more
    So what if he does not know about the history of the Rockets, he might be younger and now he is occupying himself with the newest members.

    I don't think it's a bad thing to rate the rookies higher than expected and be more than optimistic about the future as a fan. Reality will pull him down.
    But to call out fans regularly instead of informing nicely is not the solution IMO.
     
  3. Pokito1120

    Pokito1120 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2012
    Messages:
    282
    Likes Received:
    5
    I think he can become a nice 5....he is only 20, 6'9, 152lbs, but his body seems NBA ready and will only get stronger. T Jones, Ppat, Parsons, Lamb, and Lin would be a nice starting lineup.
     
  4. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    29,658
    Likes Received:
    10,140
    That would be a nice line up.
     
  5. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    29,658
    Likes Received:
    10,140
    You don't know anything about the rockets. Everyone knows that.[/QUOTE]

    You're different.
     
  6. D12 fan

    D12 fan Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2012
    Messages:
    774
    Likes Received:
    18
    T.Jones is not a center,no need to even discuss it,he's a strech pf.
     
  7. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    29,658
    Likes Received:
    10,140
    Stretch fours can't play center?
     
  8. jopatmc

    jopatmc Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2002
    Messages:
    15,370
    Likes Received:
    390
    Well sure. And power forwards can play point guard. And point guards can hang out in the corner and shoot 3-balls.

    What defensive position you play is what defines your position in today's NBA.

    Do you really think TJones can play effective post defense against the Dwights, Boguts, Cousins, Gasols, etc. of this league???? Do you really think TJones will be able to play effective post defense against those guys in 2 or 3 years???

    Sorry, I don't see it.

    TJones is a combo 4/3 along the lines of a guy like Lamar Odom. You go to play him in the pivot, it's just a gimmick, a Don Nelson gimmick. Won't work to win a championship. Will look good as a mismatch during a bunch of meaningless regular season games. But in crunch time, won't work. TJones can defend most 4's and some 3's in this league. But not 5's.
     
  9. ToNyV

    ToNyV Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2010
    Messages:
    46
    Likes Received:
    2
    I think he should play backup center.
     
  10. D12 fan

    D12 fan Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2012
    Messages:
    774
    Likes Received:
    18
    No,do you think T.Jones can guard D12/Bynum/Cousins/etc.?

    He wouldn't stand a chance against those big strong centers,T.Jones is a stretch pf not a sf/c he is too small to play center and too slow to defend the elite sf's in the NBA.
     
  11. Grape_Swisha281

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    615
    Likes Received:
    39
    1. That is the best comparison of Jones.

    2. Can we just let them play and mesh as a team before we say its not gonna work...
     
  12. Rocket_4_Life

    Rocket_4_Life Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2009
    Messages:
    853
    Likes Received:
    16
    Hakeem was about 6'10 and 255.
    Terrence is 6'9.5 and 252 (and he's just a kid.)

    Center is not Terrence's ideal position in my opinion. He's a 4. But if Al Horford and Joakim Noah can play center, so can Terrence. Terrence is a good post defender. This is what nbadraft.net had to say as he went he against his peers (PFs) in pre-draft workouts, "...stood out, showing aggression defending the post."

    The caliber of typical NBA centers these days is not great. He'll have trouble, like most centers, guarding Howard (in the WC), and Bynum (in the EC), but he should be able to do a decent job otherwise as he gains experience and further develops his body. These guys would also have to guard him by the way, which wouldn't be easy as he can shoot (decently) and can handle the ball. He definitely would create mismatches and open up the lane for guys like Lin and Lamb.

    Again, Center is not the ideal position for Jones, but he's versatile and can play the 3 - 5. Hakeem and Terrence are practically the same size, with Hakeem being marginally bigger. Hakeem is the greatest ever IMHO.

    Are you sure Terrence can't play the 5? Would Joakim Noah agree with you?
     
  13. tinman

    tinman 999999999
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    104,187
    Likes Received:
    47,050
    you seriously didn't even read what we're talking about.

    daywalker, you're just a tinman stalker now.

    he inserted himself into an argument that wasn't even his. I asked him a question to test his knowledge of the subject and he failed royaly.

    "you could inform more"? what are you now? A PBS commercial?

    I only put several links to articles of a specific playoff series as well as the box score.

    before you go on your crusade against me, read buddy boy.
    it's fundamental.

    here just read this one post by another poster on this:
    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=7171802&postcount=402
     
    #453 tinman, Sep 8, 2012
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2012
  14. Pokito1120

    Pokito1120 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2012
    Messages:
    282
    Likes Received:
    5
    Exactly!!! Ben Wallace was 6'9 240
     
  15. jopatmc

    jopatmc Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2002
    Messages:
    15,370
    Likes Received:
    390
    Ben Wallace was not a stretch 4!!!
     
  16. Pokito1120

    Pokito1120 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2012
    Messages:
    282
    Likes Received:
    5
    Have yall forgotten about one of the best defensive big men og the last decade BEN WALLACE and he was only 6'9 240. T Jones can do it if he is focused on being a big man.
     
  17. tinman

    tinman 999999999
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    104,187
    Likes Received:
    47,050
    I guess I'll help him out.

    The Rocket vs Mavericks was the 04-05 season. Instead of just defending his failed arguments, he should actually look up some facts some times.
     
  18. jopatmc

    jopatmc Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2002
    Messages:
    15,370
    Likes Received:
    390

    Yeah, like I said, Jeremy Lin can hang out in the corner and shoot the 3 ball and he can defend some small forwards in this league and be a tremendous mismatch playing small forward. But it's not his ideal position.

    And Chandler Parson can play point guard. He's got a handle, sees the floor well and he'd be a tremendous mismatch against any regular sized point guard and he can defend most of them. He's very versatile. But his ideal position is not point guard.

    And so on and so on.

    TJones is no more a center than Jeremy Lin is a small forward.
     
  19. Pokito1120

    Pokito1120 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2012
    Messages:
    282
    Likes Received:
    5
    A guy said your position in the NBA is defined by your defense. Ben Wallace was about the same size in his prime as T Jones is now coming into the league...he will only get bigger and stronger. He can play the 5 in my opinion I dont see why they shouldn't experiment and do it.
     
  20. jopatmc

    jopatmc Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2002
    Messages:
    15,370
    Likes Received:
    390
    Once again, height and weight does not define what position you play.

    CAN HE DEFEND THE POSITION?

    The answer is NOPE!
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now