Israeli court: American protester Rachel Corrie's death her own fault

Other governments have been doing far worse things. Let me name a few examples:

Iran
Pakistan
Saudi Arabia
Syria

Heck, even Turkey's treatment of the Kurds is extremely questionable.

Why so much hate against such a small country as Israel, then? Why this strong focus on them, as opposed to nations committing much worse atrocities, like the ones mentioned above?

As I have always said, I do not agree with the settlement policies and I wish someone like Rabin instead of Netanyahu was in charge. But it is wrong, wrong, wrong to constantly act as if the Palestinians (or at least their respective governments) are innocent victims in all of this, and to always point at Israel as the only culprit.

If anything, these polls reflect that there has been a media and propaganda war against Israel.

I believe it was s land balla who I believe is Muslim who went there and saw first-hand that Israel is not an evil place.

 

I really do not get antisemitism. Israel is pretty liberal in comparison to the standards in the middle east, yes liberals keep hating on them. This is not to say everything Israel does is right, but the fight with the Palestinians is their business. Far worse things are happening across the globe.

For some reason, its not OK for Israel to retaliate for any attacks or threats on their nation, but if a few extremist attack our nation, its grounds to invade and occupy other nations.

Where was Corrie when US tanks started rolling into Iraq?

 

See here - there is no greater admission of defeat and the domination that New Yorker still has put on this Jingoistic Child. Note how I tear apart the garbage he puts up today. His only defense is try to reach back into the past and play a tired record.

True sign of the weak and defeated. HO HO HO HO HO.

 

She was dead.

 

Fixed.

 

And I can't stand any of these countries one bit. 2 wrongs don't make a right.

 

Please don't act like that faux quiz is worth anything, or that even the most casual of scholars who study the region wouldn't know about the history of the region. When you post a rhetorical quiz trying to make a point, without addressing the fact that Israel makes different laws for people of Palestinian ethnicity based solely on their ethnicity, takes land away from them, gives them different rights than other citizens, occupies their land, uses them as human shields, and all of the many other injustices Israel inflicts, you are showing that your concern isn't for justice at all.

 

You are right that 2 wrongs don't make a right - but I constantly get attacked by a mob here for reporting news from these countries, whereas the leftists here are all too happy to chime in when someone reports something that paints Israel in a bad light.

 

You get attacked for being racist, dont try to cut it any other way.

People don't attack Israel here - they criticize her actions which is a perfectly legitimate thing to do from a political standpoint. But never do people attack the Jewish culture here the way you attack Islamic culture and life.

Yes the laws and society are backwards in way. But the problem is not the culture, the problem is poverty and a lack of educational institutions and pathways to a better life. Something that you can't admit to because you'd rather judge people on the surface than the contents of their character.

You and others put up this false victim wounded defense - it's really sad and weak. Grow a pair already.

 

Racist? LOL.

Ridiculous.

You are too dumb and attention-starved to even argue with.

 

Argument of the year.

 

Wow, best response, why is this guy trying to make it a competition, to horrible acts, two oppressors, yet these clowns try to make death a competition and be lenient on one side or the other, damn shame on all of em. Double standards on both sides for these people and just being overlooked how many innocents are hurt/dead. You guys are apart of the problem as you are both extremists on one side as it is.

 

Even if he wanted to argue that I am unfairly biased against Muslims...he must have missed that "Muslim" is not a race.

 

Yea they aren't a race, to say "jews" or Muslims are all like one entity is possibly the dumbest thing i've read on this board. I read the one where they kept mentioning muslim men harassing women or such and saying they as kfor it. It sounds like it could be appropriate to say its regional or cultural, perhaps its more egyptian culture. Look everyone in houston which is pretty diverse should have access to a lot of the muslims. You goto a lifetime gym youll see tons. Are they anything like the egyptians once he wrote about? hell are the egyptian american ones anything like that even? Are the women the same, etc? You can see a much greater difference in cultural/regional and perhaps a more consistent evaluation(and even that is not consistent to generalize) that i think it just speak to ignorance and stupidity for anyone here sitting and sayin that Israelis all represent their govt policy or that they represent the newsworthy crazies, similarly even especially preposterous to say muslims when they have different types, regions, cultures since they are all over the place and hae almost no connection or relation to eachother other than a broad title. Same thing if you go abroad, many people talk about america imposing their values and being controlling and trying to be policing now how about everyone saying we are all ike that bc of some broad perception and govt decisions that we have nothing to do with. Or that all priest are molestors so forth since we have seen that in the news. This thread is just so full of stupidity and ignorance and the wrong argument on both sides. That is why none of these things progress and everyone just ends up pointing the finger at eachother. More articulate version of kindergarten it seems.

 

When you have compare Israel with other POS countries it must mean they too are on that level. As soon as we invent some good batteries the US should just let all those countries blow each other up.

 

Personally, I don't think they are. Definitely they do things that are wrong, but my point was that it isn't nearly as bad as what is happening in those countries. I suggest you go to Pakistan, then go to Israel, then you will certainly see that they are not on the same level...not even close.

 

You can goto certain parts that have no influence in pakistan and actually enjoy. But sadly a lot of the country is plagued by extremism. One thing you will notice is the people there are the victims. There are so many that don't care about the politics, extremism, jsut trying to make a living and they get the bad end of it. The taliban kill more internally than they do out. They terrorize pakistan itself. So when you say pakistan is bad, you have to differentiate between them, the govt who is corrupt and not for the people, and then the people. All have different views, all go about it differently. And afghanistan itself is just not a country, its several tribes. Go there and see how decentralized it is. Go to the north see the people live a pretty lax although a very poor life with more freedom, goto other more conservative areas and dangerous places you will see differnet worlds literally. See our notion of a country and what it all represents is different. clearly many on the board don't like obama and what he is about, so everything he does what if everyone abroad saidthat is america, that is how people are. People probably wouldn't see the govt or president as a fair representative. Then you can go back to bush and get an even bigger feel of that.

As far as Israel, they are just smarter in how they control and organize it. Go there as an american or literally anyhting, they can check through your email accounts harass you do as they please if you are a risk or not, and you will have some hell of a time getting to teh occupied lands and most likely not. So they are incredibly agile and intelligent in how they control PR and even with what has slipped, go there and see what the white phosphorus they used looks like on people and the kids and women. Its not as black and white as it seems. Both sides are wrong, there is evil on both sides. I get taht its a awar and they feel they have to defend, but some of the th ings i have seen are inhumane and even against international war codes and if any other country did that would get an even bigger backlash. They did see backlash but they are able to be very savvy in how they respon plain and simple.

 

... without addressing the fact that Islamic countries make different laws for people of Different ethnicity and religious beliefs based solely on their ethnicity and religious beliefs, takes land away from them, gives them different rights than other citizens, occupies their land, uses them as human shields & front line soldiers, burns their churches (along with their congregation), kidnaps and rapes thier women, forces marriage and conversion to islam, imposes jizya, arrest their pastors on trumped up charges, execute homosexuals and adulterers, and all of the many other injustices Islamic countries inflict, you are showing that your concern isn't for justice at all.

True?

I guess the pendulum swings both ways.

 

it's always fun to see him meltdown. he doesn't have much ability to construct logical arguments so all he can do is respond that way. Kinda sad that this man has so much xenophobia in him. One wonder where all the hate came from, and why he has to spew that crap here instead of some crazy Anti-Islam forum - I am sure there are tons out there.

Seems he is on a mission to spread his message of hate.