I think Douglas is definitely staying; he's our only reliable back-up at the PG spot. Not sure if Livingston can play point.
i hope morey turns them into a backup center we dont need a center shorter then our rookies. We fixed our lack of size last season but now we are back to the layup line defense we had before we got camby and dalembert
Why? Why is this statement/demand the least bit valid? First off, Greg Smith's salary is 50% guaranteed. If he is waived "ASAP", the Rockets will lose over $381k in salary cap flexibility. With the Rockets' front office obviously always looking for trades to improve the roster, there is still a chance, however small, that either (a) Smith could be moved to create more cap flexibility or (b) multiple other players could be moved so that a roster spot is there for Smith and his partially-guaranteed salary. Add to that the fact that Smith is still a raw young center prospect, and the Rockets have little reason to waive Smith right now. As for Fortson and Simpson, their contracts are FULLY NON-GUARANTEED. What possible benefit to anyone affiliated with the Houston Rockets organization could be had by waiving either of them right now? Conversely, there is absolutely no downside whatsoever to keeping them around for another (almost) two months. If having Courtney Fortson there as a practice player in training camp (as opposed to some assistant coach having to fill in) makes Jeremy Lin even 0.0001% better, than it was certainly worth it to keep Fortson around. It seems some posters here are so desperate for ANY Rockets news that they'd rather get their "transaction fix" by seeing a player waived for no reason than for the organization to actually make a decision in their own best interests. (Dreamin, I get your frustration and will give you the benefit of the doubt here. You're better than this.)
I think Smith played well last season. He's on a good contract and besides Asik, is the only guy who plays center.
I see how they make sense financially but I think we let go of superior players and we kept inferior players. Im just not digging the financial reasons for these moves. Although keeping Harrelson and Leur would have cost us more, I think they would have been far more attractive throw in trade pieces over Smith, Simpson and Fortson, even with their non-guaranteed deals. Also they have much more upside if you are talking about future development or training fodder. The other thing is it literally gives me nightmares thinking about Greg Smith and Fortson getting playing time for us AGAIN. They really let us down last season, they sucked horiibly. It embarrasses me to display these guys in front of opposing teams and fans. But look man - Your reputation precedes you (not the bars). Your understanding of the whole scenario and situation is probably better then some of the Rockets staff. And I'll be the first to admit my understanding and knowledge is a bit rusty to say the least. So Im just gonna say 'if you say so man". There's some dudes here you just shouldn't argue with.
Hey, by all means, feel free to argue with me if/when you think I'm wrong about something. What I have to say is not the gospel or anything. This is a DISCUSSION board. As long as the discourse is intelligent, I have no problem being disagreed with. The reason for my response was not that the realization of your fears would not be a bad thing. It's that your fears just aren't going to be realized. As Morey has stated before on several occasions this summer, EVERY move the Rockets are going to make going forward will be based on whether that move will take them any closer to (versus further from) acquiring a star player. Given that the Rockets have 17 players with full or partially guaranteed contracts, and with "cap room" being one of the most significant assets the Rockets will have this upcoming season, keeping any player with an otherwise non-guaranteed deal just doesn't make any sense. Jon Leuer? Nice young player who I would have LOVED to keep under different circumstances. But his contract was non-guaranteed until a certain date; and there just wasn't room on the roster for him with so many other young bigs on guaranteed deals. So he had to be waived. Same with Josh Harrellson. Sean Williams? Jerome Jordan? E'Twaun Moore? Eh. They also had the same issues with the contract guarantee dates (with the possible exception of Jordan), so they had to go as well. Also, many people don't realize this, but NBA teams are now only permitted to have 20 players under contract at any one time during the offseason (with the limit going down to 15 during the regular season). Many of these waivings had just as much to do with adding more significant players (such as Omer Asik and Carlos Delfino) as they had to do with the waived player's ability. Barring some catastrophic turn of events (or perhaps a phenomenal positive transformation by these players), Courtney Fortson and Diamon Simpson will not be on the Rockets' regular season roster. The only reason they are still on the team over guys like Leuer, Harrellson and Williams is because those other guys had guarantee dates in their contracts. Hope this helps explain why the Rockets' roster moves with their "fringe" players make sense.
I thought Jordan was acquired in S& T from Camby, which is a non-guaranteed deal similar to Sean Williams?just wondering.Thanks for your input,Bima
Correct. Sorry, my point was that Jerome Jordan was (I believe) the only non-guaranteed contract that also did not have a guarantee date. In other words, the reason for waiving him had more to do with him simply not being in the Rockets plans no matter what (someone had to go in order to make room for other incoming players) than it had to do with avoiding paying him any guaranteed money on his deal.
Hey guys this is a Diamon Simpson Appreciation Thread. Stop talking about roster spots and star appreciating Diamon Simpson :grin: He's a nice guy with good potential. Good luck in your future endeavors Diamon!
Thanks.I did not know cash could set off salary cap TD is also really bad last year, which i think is part of the reason why cash have to be paid (beside guaranteed contract) by the knicks. In addition TD is injured last year( shoulder injury ) & some off court issue( something like having a baby), if i'm not mistaken . We use the asik thread to talk about howard so...:grin:
