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2012 Presidential Election: Romney vs. Obama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. bigtexxx

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    So now you've resorted to trashing the LDS church?

    The left's hate knows no bounds
     
  2. Air Langhi

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    I am just telling Izk why Romney campaign is not going to use faith to promote mitt Romney. BTW faith should have nothing to with being the president of the US.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    from the man who claims the higher ground? The trolls have no fiber.

    HO HO HO
     
  4. Rashmon

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    If his lips are moving...

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  5. Batman Jones

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    I don't view Mormonism to be very different from any other religion. Each relies upon faith in the supernatural, each provides comfort and a sense of belonging and grace to the believer, each does good works in the community, etc.

    But there are a few things that most Christians, if they knew about Mormons, would not be pleased about.

    For one, Mormons don't believe that the Virgin Mary was a virgin. They believe that Jesus was born of the seed of man, not God. How's that gonna play in the Bible Belt? What would happen in an interview if Mitt was asked if he believed Mary was a virgin and he actually answered the question?

    I'll tell you this much. It wouldn't help.

    Start getting into the belief that God is a 6'2 man living on the Planet Kolob (I'm not joking - look it up) and the already weird Mitt Romney has fresh problems on his hands.

    To be clear about my own views, I believe every religion requires a belief in the implausible (to us mere mortals at least), and that's fine. That's why they call it faith. I don't find the strange bits of Mormonism to be stranger than the strange bits of any other sect or faith. But American Christians would. As Bill Maher said this week, "The idea that Mary didn't get around is a pretty big deal with a lot of them."
     
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    Mitt pretends he wants Americans to know him better but that's just another example of his insincerity. Does anyone think he wants it widely known he did 2 1/2 years Mormon missionary time in France? I'll bet you less than 1/10th of Americans know that.

    If Mitt continues to trail, his campaign sees the writing on the wall and concludes later on he has nothing to lose, he will bring stuff like this to the table in an attempt to seem more empathetic.
     
  7. trueroxfan

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    Saw this site this morning and took the quiz, it takes like 2 minutes.

    www.isidewith.com/

    I was somewhat surprised. I, for the most part, only identify with the Republican party because of my fiscal/economic views. I found that I identify with Gary Johnson on most issues (78%), Obama (63%), and Romney (59%).

    It found that I was 67% Libertarian, 64% Republican, 53% Democratic, and 52% Green.

    It's obviously not an exact science, but it also tracks voters on issues, and by state, so you can see how people think on particular issues.

    Thought I'd share for anyone who is like me, hard left on one issue, hard right on another, but for the most part in the middle on a lot of things.
     
  8. A_3PO

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    Al Gore (circa 2000 campaign) II?
     
  9. SacTown

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    A University of Colorado analysis of state-by-state factors leading to the Electoral College selection of every U.S. president since 1980 forecasts that the 2012 winner will be Mitt Romney.

    http://www.colorado.edu/news/releas...nts-romney-win-university-colorado-study-says
     
  10. Major

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    That study basically just uses economics - and it's right in that if that's all there was to it, Romney would be favored. But it ignores anything unique to the candidates, and that's where Romney fails.

    Similarly, picking the "more charismatic" candidate has accurately predicted the election every year since 1980, and by that standard, Obama would win in a landslide. That's the problem with formulaic studies - they don't have all the data, and they basically work until they don't. And once they don't, you just won't hear about them so it sounds more impressive when you hear one got every election right.
     
  11. Invisible Fan

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    Hoover was a competent businessman too. He let the people eat cake, justifying it by thinking that market forces would correct itself.

    Need more qualities....

    Of course, and I mention it later in the post.

    Doesn't matter as long the testimonials secure his devotion to his faith.

    There's a story out there about how he tried, in the role of church leader, pressuring a pregnant woman out of an abortion despite it being for health reasons. Not really securing the women's vote there, but it gives a real honest and portrayal to what he believes in, something sorely lacking in this campaign. Plus, there is an anecdote from someone else that it opened his eyes to the debate. Silver lining is that it's a human trait of self inspection and questioning dogma.

    To Democrat it doesn't.
     
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    It's fairly easy to spread that information around with political agents. Not really a "secret" to those who can google and spell.

    The point, and it has to be stressed to atheists, is that his micro-level acheivements, quality any church would respect, would be used to offset the erosion he's getting with the stigma of the Mormon church and his slimy, filthy rich, used car salesman demeanor.
     
  13. HR Dept

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    If the Dems display thier plans with any amount of detail this week the election will be decided. Doesn't matter what the plan is or how much detail.

    Provide the public with somthing other than rhetoric and platitudes. The GOP failed to do that last week, though Mitt Romney did give a nice speech. I didn't agree with any of it, but it was a nice speech that def rallied his base.
     
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    Guy Performing Random Interviews At a Wal-Mart in Mississippi: "Are you voting for Obama or Romney?"

    Toothless Mississippian: "Romney of course. He's a true patriot, a God loving Christian, and a true son of Amurica. Unlike that Mooslim lovin O-Bam-Ahh."

    Interviewer: "What would you say if I told you that God was a 6'2 man living on the Planet Kolab?"

    Mississippian: "I'd say that you're a damned lauur, is what you are!!!"

    Interviewer: "Did you know that Mitt Romney believes the whole Planet Kolab thing to be true?"

    Mississippian:
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    6'2"? He better have PG skills or he's undersized.
     
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    lol looks like the DNC big speech could get moved to a smaller venue

    lost that 2008 "spark", huh?
     
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    from a client project I'm working on right now:

    Challenge: The Company wanted to access a student pipeline of students from the Detroit college community. This would help college graduates looking for work upon graduation and minimize salary costs for the Company.

    Action: So, I partnered with the Recruiting Director to work with Detroit Community Colleges and other Detroit community business partners to write a grant that would allow funding to training college students and then hire them for project work throughout our organization. Our company entered into agreement with the city of Detroit to hire 500 employees by the end of 2015. So, a lot of our community efforts are executed as a result of this agreement with Detroit and as a result of a commitment with the Obama administration to help revitalize Detroit.
     
  19. HR Dept

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    Lol... Silly Republican.

    "The big event of the convention is the president’s speech Thursday evening in Bank of America Stadium, which will be able to fit 65,000 people. Tickets were given to volunteers who promised a certain amount of time to the campaign. Lines to pick up those tickets were a half-mile long at some places, the campaign said.

    Yet forecasts call for scattered thunderstorms Thursday, which could make for a very unpleasant time, since umbrellas aren’t allowed for security reasons."

    "Moving the speech inside to a smaller venue would mean the DNC would have to turn away thousands of voters who donated time and money, and in some cases, traveled from neighboring states to attend."


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  20. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Um, why do you hate America?
     

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