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Israeli court: American protester Rachel Corrie's death her own fault

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Mathloom, Sep 3, 2012.

  1. Kojirou

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    What are you talking about? If you build a home against the official regulations, what do you think is going to happen? And that's in the US, much less a geopolitical mess like the Israeli region.
     
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  2. Deji McGever

    Deji McGever יליד טקסני

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    Good luck trying to get a building permit in Israel if you aren't Jewish.
     
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  3. trustme

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    Are you being serious or sarcastic? Do you know how many houses Israel has built "against official regulations"?
     
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  4. AMS

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    I just want to remind you, that you are a bigot.

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...rrie-s-death-wasn-t-credible.premium-1.460091

    Israel’s investigation into the death of American activist Rachel Corrie was not satisfactory, and wasn’t as thorough, credible or transparent as it should have been, U.S. Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro told the Corrie family this week.
     
  5. LosPollosHermanos

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    The point is, if there is nothing to hide, why stop testimonies and hold evidence?

    Jesus Christ man. I don't think you are biased but you seriously come off like that when you don't think there is anything wrong with holding back facts that are essential to an investigation. The verdict for whether or not it was unjust can be held off but the investigation is interrupted, and that is wrong.
     
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  6. AroundTheWorld

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    Where did I say that I don't think there is anything wrong with holding back facts that are essential to an investigation? I did say that I don't know if the trial was 100 % proper.
     
  7. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Unjust outcome? Hardly. First, the experts seem to indicate the operator could not see Corrie. Perhaps more importantly, Corrie placed herself in a war zone, in front of a military bulldozer, and directly between an army and it's target and died as a result. Unjust would be if Corrie's estate, family, or cause were somehow rewarded for her idiocy.
     
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  8. trustme

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    But it is just to bulldoze the homes people live in?
     
  9. Kojirou

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    How is that relevant? I didn't say anything about Israeli houses. Perhaps the Israeli government should knock down those homes, perhaps they shouldn't. That doesn't mean that the Palestinian homes should not be knocked down.

    Furthermore, judging from your quote, should houses that people live in not be bulldozed down in general? No. You don't believe that - I know Houston has no zoning, but if I tried to build a residential area in a commercial zoned area, it would be knocked down, and you would not have a problem with that.. So when should they be?
     
  10. Major

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    Of course, this is also the position of the US government. So I suppose you believe that the US government is now spreading anti-Israel propaganda.
     
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  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    THe homes in many cases were legal and had people living in them. They were destroyed as punishment for the Infatada. I think your knowledge is a bit suspect.
     
  12. iconoclastic

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    The woman is responsible for her own safety. Don't stand in front of a bulldozer if you don't want to get run over. Protesting injustice is one thing, daring someone to kill you and getting killed is your own fault though. Can she just stand in front of highway traffic and expect not to get run over? Of course not. If you put yourself in a dangerous situation, the fault lies with yourself.
     
  13. AroundTheWorld

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    Please provide proof that it is the position of the US government that the court's finding is "an unjust outcome".
     
  14. David Stern

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    Reminds me of the always sunny episode were a Jew serves notice of eviction to the gang.
     
  15. dback816

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    We're talking about a bulldozer that moves at snail pace here, not a speeding hummer.

    lol, you're being sarcastic right?
     
  16. Major

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    The US government said the investigation was not credible or complete. Part of justice is due process. You can make the connection.
     
  17. AroundTheWorld

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    I'm sorry for you if you lack the intellectual ability to distinguish process and outcome.
     
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    I wasn't going to comment because of the tragic loss of life that has become a propaganda tool, but...

    If I was to make myself into a human shield during a bombing raid, and get blown to bits who's fault would it be?

    If I was to jump In front of a bulldozer during a demolition...

    As someone who is involved with the demolition of homes daily, there are many areas that are blind spots in such machines. You could be wearing a vest with flashing lights and using a bull horn and still not be seen or heard.

    Tragic that a young girl lost her life, but she did put herself directly in harms way.
     
  19. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    If you were protecting a group of people whose land was stolen from them against international law then probably not your fault.
     
  20. BetterThanI

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    By putting herself in front of the bulldozer, she was basically saying, "I am willing to die to stop you from enforcing the law." Seems to me they took her up on her offer, accidentally or purposefully. Was what they were doing wrong? Yes. Does Israeli law say they can do it anyway? Seems so, yes. Did they place her in the path of the bulldozer? No. I'm sorry for her family's loss, but perhaps she should have considered the pain they would have to endure before she placed herself in harm's way. She caused her own death.
     

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