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2012 Presidential Election: Romney vs. Obama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. Major

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    You clearly don't know enough gays-are-evil-sinners-that-are-going-to-hell-and-destroying-America types!
     
  2. justtxyank

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    I'll admit to not knowing many outright hateful people but I do know quite a few extremely religious people. While they are completely against homosexuality, completely against gay marriage, etc. even they would say that type of situation is silly.
     
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    Even my very religious socially conservative parents would be willing to adjust "next of kin," power of attorney, and other laws for homosexual couples. For them it's about the title of marriage. In fact, they'd prefer for the government to get out of marriage altogether.
     
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    I honestly think that the reason things like that may still go on is because right wing officials have a fear of a challenge from the deep right if they do anything that is pro-gay rights. They are afraid of a radical painting them as a social liberal and a RHINO.

    That's my guess.
     
  5. Dubious

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    Jumbo Shrimp
    Christian tolerance
    American Freedom

    Oxymorons?

    [​IMG]
     
  6. Major

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    Most religious people are that way today - which makes sense given that Christianity is all about the idea that everyone is a sinner and forgiveness/tolerance/etc. But there's still that small selection of people out there that blame gays for all our failings (as well as the cause of hurricanes and things like that). Those people aren't just opposed to gay marriage - they are anti-gay entirely, and I suspect they would not support such things. Though, really, I don't know any of those people personally either, so I can't say for sure.
     
  7. Dubious

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    I'd prefer they keep their religion out of my government.
     
  8. Major

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    Agreed - that's exactly it. And with the success of the tea party at getting rid of some hardcore conservatives over trivial things (like Bob Bennett), it's a reasonably well-founded fear. The crazies have gained a lot of power in the GOP.

    My hope is that an Obama victory (and losing the Senate thanks to Akin, on top of O'Donnell, Angle, etc) makes the GOP realize that catering to these people is not the way to go. Not sure that will happen though - it could be that they decide that the mistake was going for the relative moderate in Romney, and try to go more extreme next time.
     
  9. Dubious

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    THE Republican party is 50 rich guys behind the scenes. They only fired up the Tea Party to create an anti-centrist opposition to a Centrist President. And then, they shut them out of the convention and are running away from their platform. They have been and will be about controlling their own economic fate.
     
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    Medical word on the street is that no one had the heart to tell Clint that the chair was empty and he wasn't really talking to the president.
     
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    [​IMG]

    (I can't take credit for this.)
     
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    I wonder if Clint's rant actually plays well to the over 65 white male crowd. Also wonder if the over 65 males will react badly to folks making empty chair jokes.
     
  14. Dubious

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    Invisible Obama presents more solutions than Mitt Romney at RNC
    http://www.chicagonow.com/going-for...implausibilities-and-a-general-waste-of-time/


    #eastwooding


    How do even do this on photoshop?
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    And it turns out it is standard political theater:

    Many who saw the scene thought it to be strange and bizarre, let alone unconventional, for a forum that is usually meticulously directed. Delegates on the convention floor, however, loved it.

    But it turns out that the history of debating empty chairs is a rich one, stretching back to at least 1924 when Democratic vice-presidential nominee Burton K. Wheeler took a stab at an invisible President Calvin Coolidge.

    Safire’s Political Dictionary describes the event, quoting from Wheeler’s autobiography Yankee From The West.

    In Des Moines, I hit on an original showmanship gimmick. The hall was jammed to the rafters… I said, “You people have a right to know how a candidate for President stands on issues, and so far President Coolidge has not told you where he stands on anything… so I am going to call him before you tonight and ask him to take this chair and tell me where he stands.” People in the auditorium began to crane their necks to see if Coolidge really was somewhere on the premises. I pulled a vacant chair and addressed it as though it had an occupant. “President Coolidge,” I began, “tell us where you stand on Prohibition.” I went on with rhetorical questions in this vein, pausing after each for a short period. Then I wound up: “There, my friends, is the usual silence that emanates from the White House.” The crowd roared in appreciation.


    http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/sma...g-history-of-americans-debating-empty-chairs/
     
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    over 65 crowd isn't up that late to watch. ;)
     
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    It's also a first year Acting101 exercise.

    For your Friday before a three day weekend viewing pleasure!

    Off to the country home! Later gentlemen!


    The Internet's 20 Best Reactions to Clint Eastwood's Weird RNC Chair Rant


    Love it!


    "Has debate with Imaginary Obama...loses"
     
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    If you want to see the over 65under old white men head over to 2coolfishing.com and look at bungle in the jungle forum.
     
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    okay, one more quick one

    Romney today on the stump

    "Paul Ryan and I understand how the economy works, we understand how Washington works, we will reach across the aisle and find good people who like us, want to make sure this company deals with its challenges. We’ll get America on track again. "


    Oops
     
  20. CometsWin

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    Does Romney know that buying another country and transferring all of our debt to them so they can declare bankruptcy to wipe out all the debt is not an option here?
     

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