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2012 Presidential Election: Romney vs. Obama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. mc mark

    mc mark Member

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    me too!
     
  2. ElPigto

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    So is this guy going to wage war on Iran? That's the impression that he gave me. lol.
     
  3. Carl Herrera

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    I wonder what is the #1 thing people will remember from this RNC.

    Clint and the chair?
     
  4. ElPigto

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    It was a nice chair.
     
  5. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Yup. What a disaster.
     
  6. mc mark

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    Tweet from a friend

    "This is a perfect representation of the Romney campaign: a white man arguing with an imaginary Barack Obama."
     
  7. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    I wish I could share more with you right now, but I watched tonight's speech with an inner circle of Democratic leaders in Washington DC. Mitt Romney is our next President. Wow. America's outlook just did a 180.


    GOOD NIGHT
     
  8. rimrocker

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    I thought for a second Clint was Walken doing a really bad SNL skit.
     
  9. gifford1967

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    Was the "whitey tape" a topic of conversation.
     
  10. rimrocker

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    OK then. No need to wait until November. Just coronate Mitt now.
     
  11. Commodore

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    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/30/michael-moore-practice-the-words-president-romney/#ixzz255ryndSm
     
  12. Carl Herrera

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    Not sure how the RNC is gonna play out in the polls, but I am not sure the folks at Romney HQ are feeling that great at the moment, here's why:

    As much as anything else, the one thing Romney is selling himself as is a super-competent CEO/management consultant-type who can turn around the economy. The argument is that we should ignore that he's not exactly likable and has switched positions on a number of issues (abortion, climate change, and others) because we need his competence.

    Given this, people have certain expectations about Romney's convention: we expect the execution to be smooth and coherent. This is Romney's big presentation to the board of a company that he wants to hire him to turn it around, so whatever the substance of the presentation, so at least we expect the PowerPoint to be well rehearsed and to work without a glitch.

    Instead, what folks will remember most (and what will be replayed on news programs and late night talk shows the most) is probably a rambling speech by their "surprise speaker" to an empty chair, which also caused the convention to run overtime. It rather screws with the facade of competence. It's like Mitt had a "surprise speaker" at his presentation and it turned out to be a senile Bain senior partner who showed up in the conference room naked and started to talk to furniture.

    I mean, it won't be long before folks start talking about who signed off on inviting Clint Eastwood without knowing what exactly he'll do and receiving assurance that he won't go off script. This doesn't exactly assure voters that Romney's administration will be an well-oiled machine.

    Also, I thought this was funny:

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Clint Eastwood on the phone with Obama now: "It all went according to plan,sir." <a href="https://twitter.com/search/?q=%23RNC"><s>#</s><b>RNC</b></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/?q=%23GOP2012"><s>#</s><b>GOP2012</b></a></p>&mdash; Chris Rock (@chrisrockoz) <a href="https://twitter.com/chrisrockoz/status/241373614572724224" data-datetime="2012-08-31T03:15:28+00:00">August 31, 2012</a></blockquote>
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  13. BigBenito

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    Well... not JUST ignoramuses who are supported by people who believe that Adam and Eve rode on dinosaurs 6,000 years ago.
     
  14. ktbballplaya

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    This is the same party that was pissed at clint for the super bowl ad lol. I just cant take them serious
     
  15. justtxyank

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    The Eastwood thing was a total disaster lol. I don't care how it gets spun, Romney HAD to be wishing for a lighting bolt to strike him or something. What a total flop.
     
  16. Nook

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    Was able to watch 95% of the Republican convention and here are my thoughts

    Good:

    Condi Rice is probably the most gifted and bright major star in the Republican stable. Her speech was the best in the entire convention and she is excellent at presenting issues in an agreeable fashion.

    Ron Paul and his supporters made noise day 1, but it did not dominate the headlines. The party seemed reasonable united.

    The hurricane damage was limited.

    Bad:

    Paul Ryan did come across and relatively youthful and ambitious, but his speech lacked the charisma or pop Mitt hoped for. Also, in the days following his speech the narrative has become all the questionable "facts" he relied on. He will now have to be on the defense.

    Attendees throwing peanuts at a black camera woman and "feeding the animals." The Republican party already had the perception of being the party of wealth and intolerance. A dog and pony show of whisking every minority in their party (even if it means relying on the mayor of a town) in front of your 98% white audience looks even more absurd when your members are "feeding the animals."

    Mitt Romney... He didn't choke... He just came across as what he is, a wealthy man of privilege that is a bit of a douche. He isn't a bumbler, and he isn't over his head, but he just isn't inspiring either. I think his point concerning "are you better than 4 years ago" was probably somewhat effective, but he went back to it too often. I think his mention of Bain was a mistake, it only made people remember. His speech wasn't a disaster but he offered no real solutions.. The not raising taxes on rich, middle class, cutting business taxes and not decreasing military spending AND having a balanced budget? ... No one believes it, I remember thinking "I guess you will tax the hell out of the poor."

    Overall

    Better than 1992 and 1996 for Republicans. Better than 2008 is production but there was no Palin this time to energize people.


    Overall... Bleh, but the race is still close and the PAC money may buy him the election.
     
  17. Felixthecat

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    The crowd at the GOP convention looked like a Utah Jazz crowd.
     
  18. ktbballplaya

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    this is a wonderful encapsulation of Obama, the thin skin, the picture of himself, the sense of entitlement

    Eastwood: "politicians are our employees"

    Obama: "respect my authoritai"
     
  20. thadeus

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    I like how Romney portrayed himself as a guy who worked hard for his privilege, and how he portrayed Bain as just a bunch of young guys who got together and started a small business and succeeded simply because America is great.
     

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