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[AMC] Breaking Bad - Season 5

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by R0ckets03, Jun 2, 2012.

  1. AB423

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  2. Nice Rollin

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    agreed
     
  3. Nice Rollin

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    sometimes you gotta root for the bad guy
     
  4. TdashDUB

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    Exactly.




    I once dated a girl who loved me from the go. Always thought highly and adored me. We dated for about 6 months. And by the 5th month she'd randomly start picking fights or b****ing about things that normally wouldn't be a problem between us or things others wouldn't/shouldn't see a problem with either. Then the unwarranted nit picks became way past ridiculous and too much. It wasn't until I sat her down and picked her brain that she revealed that she was in love with me and scared because of it. She admitted that she would put a microscope over me as a person and SEEK imperfections, flaws and over all reasons to think less of me...

    See the uncanny parallels here?
     
  5. dandorotik

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    There's a reason why 95+% of the people who comment on BB's Facebook page can't stand the Skylar character.

    I look at it this way: yes, Walt does turn into a villlain this season, but look at how some of the other deaths are set up. First, Emilio has a gun on him in the Pilot- he really has no way of knowing if he's going to be killed, so that's self-defense. Then, Crazy 8 is going to stab him with a plate- again, self-defense. Tuco is killed by Hank. Jane? Yes, that's horrible. In his mind, he's saving Jesse from what he perceives as a road to eventual drug overdose/death, but that doesn't excuse him. First death he contributes to that's unjustified. The two drug dealers? They killed a kid, and Walt's protecting Jesse. Sort of self-defense? Possibly. Gus, the other guy and Mr. Wheelchair? Walt didn't kill them- Wheelchair man did. OK, Walt was truly responsible for that. Poisoning the kid? That's the 2nd instance of his truly turning bad. And then the 2 guys he kills in the lab before they blow it up.

    So, he becomes the villain. And if Skylar was developed differently, I'd totally understand her. But you still feel for Walt the first three seasons, you don't justify the deaths but you feel for him b/c of the cancer. I don't get that about Skylar. She gives these hints that, if they showed how she acted every day, day in and day out, she'd be intolerable.

    If my wife told me she was selling drugs to make money, I'd be mad, but I wouldn't divorce her outright. It'd have to be going on for a while, and I'd forgive her. If she murdered someone in self-defense, I'd understand. If she cheated on me, she's gone, that's the unforgivable for me, so it's more a personal thing I have against that character.
     
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    delete.
     
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    delete.
     
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  8. Handles

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    Skylar cheated on her husband who has cancer. Walt and skylar are both bad people so technically both should be hated. But walt is just such a badass I can't hate him. And he is acted beautifully. Same reason I never hated scarface. Skylar? Horrible character who annoys the **** out of me.
     
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    People like Walt for the same reason people like Tony Montana, Michael Correlone, and Henry Hill in the movies.
     
  10. Daedalus

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    She stuck with him through the cancer, the fugue state & other behaviour she could not explain but the final straw for her was the second cellphone....after that she probably figured he was having an affair (remember her phoning his mom & finding out he'd never visited her when he left the ABQ) - all that was before Ted.

    Skylar > Carmella.
     
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    Not sure if this has been pointed out, but as we've seen throughout the show there's been a bunch of similarities towards The God Father movies.

    And just like in the God Father, Michael is trying to do all he does "for his family", but ends up killing his brother, suffering from the loss of his daughter, and from his wife Kay who can't stand him anymore.

    I wouldn't be surprised if in the end, Walt Jr. got killed caught in a crossfire (with the ricin or simply a lost bullet), Walt had to kill someone close to him (Hank, whoever) and Walt ended up suffering the greatest pain, which is not dying and living in regret.

    That or he'll go Scarface and just get killed, while Hank and Marie take care of Holly, Walt Jr. gets shot and Skylar dies somehow.
     
  12. Rocket River

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    You are right.
    It is just a show ... That is becoming painfully predictable.

    Rocket River
     
  13. Rocket River

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    Neither of the sisters are good
    I dunno if it is bad acting or script
    Neither are interesting.

    Skylar's bimbo act was ridiculous and I was irritated the irs guy bought it.

    Rocket River
     
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    In Skylar's defense. It has been a hell of a year.
    Walt goes from absent minded prof to the hardest man alive.
    She is terrified of him.
    He has become the cancer in her life.

    Walt's manipulations are basic compared to the expert Vic Mackey!!

    Rocket River
     
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    Or that she is related to the actor who plays Jr in the show, the look almost exactally the same. Same hair, eyes and skin color.
     
  16. Daedalus

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    i find it hard to swallow your criticisms of this show (legit though some may be) since you're such a fan of The Shield. Talk about cheap writing, manipulatively convenient plot twists, cardboard characters....
     
  17. Rocket River

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    Maybe its the Simpson's did it syndrome.

    Rocket River
     
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    Just finished episode 7. (finally up to date).

    Couple of thoughts;

    It's pretty clear now that sooner or later Jesse is going to figure out the whole incident with Walt and Brock. He's starting to see Walt's true side and the fact that he's cold-blooded (Walt said he doesn't harm kids, yet Jesse now clearly see's throughout the Heist incident that Walt doesn't care much for kids).
    What I could see happening is Walt using the ricin, or somebody discovering it (Maybe Skylar will smoke it? Which will ultimately kill her), and Jesse hearing that Walt still had the ricin, and he'll understand the whole story at that time.

    Another point that will clear Jesse away from Walt is when he's going to learn (sooner or later, probably from Lydia) that he killed Mike. "No one will die now that we control things". Yeah, right.

    As for the PROMO, I think that Walt is going to manipulate his new assistant Tod in using his "prison-connections" to get the guys inside the prisons killed. In exchange of which I suppose Walt will offer a considerable amount of money once the killers get out and possibly a job. Landry, uhm I mean Todd, will get it done, he will do anything to get up in Walt's esteem ("let me get this right before we talk money")
    They'll probably kill them all, even though they don't need to (just send a message by killing a couple would be enough).

    Walt's ego in the end will be what gets the best of him. As we've seen with Mike, but also with the fact that he forgot the Poison Flower at first, he's starting to make mistakes (case can also be made that he might have forgotten the bug in his in-law's office) and will slip eventually.

    I'm pretty sure Skylar will die before the show ends, but I think it won't be "on purpose". Either she's going to get into a fight with Walt and he'll push her and she'll break her neck, or she might smoke that ricin cigarette (if thats even possible considering it was in a plastic tube, but i'm saying this because I remember Walt telling Jesse "just don't smoke that one").


    I think your right.
     
  19. Kim

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    This would make sense...nice call dude.
     
  20. heypartner

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    I think this is just because her character is boring...especially this year. btw: that will all change. I think you are reading too much into it to say people can't stand the character, because she cheated. We aren't watching a soap opera.
     
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