Top recruit collapses in court after receiving three-year prison sentence

lol love the Rice reference

by the way -- Ricky Pierce (Rice) is better than any basketball player Baylor has ever put out

pwn3d

 

Nobody wants to let him off. I don't want him to get the scholarship. I want to see him graduate HS. I want to see him get a chance to make amends.

I hope you enjoy helping to support him for the rest of his life.

 

Is there anyone here that thinks there is room for a grey area? It seems like people are mostly arguing whether or not he deserves jail or not. Seems like 3 years is too much to me. How about 1 year? That's a ton of time in jail, but he'll get out soon enough to make something of his life.

 

Well, I know people who have been victims of those making mistakes. If you get caught making a mistake then there may be a penalty related to it. I don't think 3 years is too hefty of a punishment for beating on a woman.

Also, you keep saying the sentencing doesn't benefit anybody. That's not true. It benefits other potential victims for 3 years. That's why they say "get the criminals off the streets". No woman has to worry about him beating them for his sentence. If he got caught dealing drugs, molesting a kid, stealing, etc....we don't have to worry about him having another victim as long as he is in prison. That is a benefit.

 

How about 6 months? That's what he'll most likely end up serving.

 

You've got it in reverse about what it should be.

If you are rich? Probation

If you are white? Probation or less

If you are black and poor? 3 years

 

Yes bringing up a guy that was born in the 50s sure did pwn me.

Good job, good effort.

 

More like 20 years.

 

I don't like leaving it up to the judge. Would rather he sit for a hearing. 6 months would be reasonable.

 

You would just be delaying him from doing it for 3 years, and increasing the likelyhood that he commits future crimes. I'd come down with a vengeance for a 2nd offense. Nobody benefits.

 

Some county time would have sufficed. This is ridic.

Guys like Sandusky roamed free for decades and this kid gets raped figuratively and potentially literally for a mistake he made at 18. A big mistake but it could have been worse.

 

No I don't. Priority #1 is to punish the crime. I have no issue with that. Priority #2 is to provide options so hopefully the criminal can change.

All that sucks and is true. So as my parents told me when i was growing up poor and black, odds are higher they will send your poor black arse to jail so don't commit crimes if you can't handle the penalty since you will likely get it. Fair, no. Reality, yeah. Either way, in this case, I don't feel sorry for any many getting 3 years for beating on a woman. And if this dude couldn't hoop odds are hardly anyone else would feel bad for him either.

 

So basically this thread spiraled into a incarceration vs. rehabilitation debate...
D&D.

 

Society benefits for the time that he is locked up. Let him go unpunished and he still likely commits future crimes.

Crimes go punished. Sorry, I have no problem with that. Yes, I do think some punishments are severe but rarely have those feelings about those in the violent category, which this one is.

 

He got the order wrong. You're supposed to go the NBA first, and THEN you get to do stuff like this.

 

Punish him by forcing him to enroll in anger management, doing community service, etc. basically turn him into an indentured servant. Benefits the community and you rehabilitate while punishing at the same time.

Prison should be a last resort for those deemed HOPELESS to peacefully re-integrate into society. i.e. Rapists, murderers, etc.

 

That may be true, but Vinnie Johnson was an important part of two NBA championship teams.

 

That is the wrong way of thinking. Punishment is obviously a form of deterrent, so punishment must exist, but we should always try to be better. Perhaps prison itself as punishment 1st could be true, but our first goal in sentencing should be rehabilitation. The guy clearly needs anger management. He could use to meet someone women that have suffered from abuse. Do community service work, particularly for domestic abuse victims. I'd love to tie sentencing towards making a better person. I would rather use short term prison sentences to scare the living crap out of people first. Possibly even the kind of message the judge wants to send. She may already have in her mind that when her review of the sentencing comes up that he is going to let him go, and she just wanted him to know how close he is to ending up behind those bars for a long period of time.

We actually tend to be a forgiving country, and that is why Ima is probably right that the judge does change his sentencing in 6 months when she reviews it.

I agree with everyone that hitting a woman is unacceptable. Hitting someone period without qualified reasoning is unacceptable, being someone weaker than you is just being a little b****.

 

This generation's acceptance of violence against women is pretty strange.

Beating on a girl that is significantly smaller than you (this dude is 6'7") because you won't go somewhere with you is pretty extreme and is not a mistake. It can't be rationalized. It's not something that could happen to anyone on a bad day. It's a severe problem.

 

I'm not suggesting no punishment. Nobody would.

Unfortunately an extended prison sentence increases your odds of committing future crimes, rather than decreasing them. Primary reasons are due to lack of money, lack of education, and difficulty finding work. It is unfortunate.